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re: A look back at Johnson’s teams fielding % and national rank for errors
Posted on 3/21/22 at 9:00 am to Metaloctopus
Posted on 3/21/22 at 9:00 am to Metaloctopus
Very well stated. We don’t know what practice is like, but yes there are things you should be doing to help these guys improve.
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Posted on 3/21/22 at 9:04 am to doubleb
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didn’t Ben McDonald say in the broadcast yesterday that last year he moved to SS at LSUE?
He was primarily a 2nd and 3rd baseman at LSUE.
Posted on 3/21/22 at 9:11 am to ProjectP2294
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didn’t Ben McDonald say in the broadcast yesterday that last year he moved to SS at LSUE?
He was primarily a 2nd and 3rd baseman at LSUE.
Thanks, Ben had me confused.
Also I didn’t know he played third some in Eunice.
Posted on 3/21/22 at 9:14 am to doubleb
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Btw, I have heard coaches say third is tougher to play than second. I disagree. Second base requires a better athlete and he has more things to do than the third baseman. JMHO
Third is absolutely more tough to play than 2B for the simple fact of having to make that throw across the whole infield which is way more often than say tough things a 2B has to do like make a bang bang throw from 2B to 1B on a double play attempt from 3B/SS. We've turned like 5 double plays in 20 games this year. We've mad a LOT more (Attempted) throws to 1B from 3B by comparison. Also, you often have a much shorter time to field a ground ball at 3B vs. 2B with how they play those guys often.
Sure a 2B might have to move a little more than a #B does, that isn't what makes things that tough though. That 3B to 1B throw is not something easily done and it's done pretty often in games usually.
Posted on 3/21/22 at 9:14 am to ProjectP2294
He also played 3rd 43 games in the summer leagues and he was not great.
Try him at 2nd he seems real intimidated by the long throws.
Plenty of strength he just seems to panic.
Try him at 2nd he seems real intimidated by the long throws.
Plenty of strength he just seems to panic.
Posted on 3/21/22 at 9:17 am to lsupride87
Woof that is terrible. He will be out of a job real quick if that doesn’t change in the next couple years
Posted on 3/21/22 at 9:19 am to lsupride87
This def doesn’t make me feel better about it but I have a much better understanding now of why
Posted on 3/21/22 at 9:24 am to ProjectP2294
I think he’s got to move Doughty to 3rd and try Merrifield at 2nd. Doughty played well at 3rd last year Thompson has a cannon at SS and I have to think he will straighten it out. I think they are playing way too tight for some some reason. These are good players that can make plays. Something isn’t right from a mental standpoint and unless you’re in those team meetings it’s hard to put your finger on it.
Posted on 3/21/22 at 9:26 am to lsupride87
Did SW make a bad hire?
Can JJ correct that?
Batting is important. Pitching is important. Fielding is important.
Can JJ correct that?
Batting is important. Pitching is important. Fielding is important.
Posted on 3/21/22 at 9:26 am to Bring Da Wood
I agree. At this point, Jobert needs to sit for a bit and Berry needs to DH. There is also the chance that having a better fielding third baseman improves Thompson's play at short. At the very least, having more confident players at both 2nd and 3rd should help overall.
Posted on 3/21/22 at 9:26 am to lsupride87
CPM was always a defensive minded coach. He might have been frustrating at times but very rarely did he not have an at least above average rotation with a solid defense behind it. He sacrificed offense for defense and considering his success at LSU it’s hard to complain about it.
Johnson is a much more modern, offensive minded coach. He has also had a ton of success so far in his career so it’s hard to find fault in it. It’s just going to be a much different ride than we are used to.
Johnson is a much more modern, offensive minded coach. He has also had a ton of success so far in his career so it’s hard to find fault in it. It’s just going to be a much different ride than we are used to.
Posted on 3/21/22 at 9:30 am to thunderbird1100
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Dont even get me started on Berry who simply shouldnt be in the field.
I looked up his fielding percentage at Arizona. It was .833 and that was in limited time because he DH'd a lot. I don't know a whole bunch about baseball but that is pretty bad. If he is an All American DH I would expect him to hit the ball a little better. Maybe he will come around.
Posted on 3/21/22 at 9:34 am to Meauxjeaux
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The same players are currently ranked 230th this year I believe
Same players in different spots.
It makes a difference.
with a few of these guys thrown in if I'm not mistaken.
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2021 Arizona: 159th (.967)
As of March 17th
LSU 251st (.952)
Posted on 3/21/22 at 9:34 am to geauxtigers33
You can bring a horse to water, but you can't make it drink. You can put guys in position to make plays, but you can't make plays for them. The whole mentality argument is self inflicted. The players need to take it upon themselves to have a short term memory. That's not something you can always coach out of guys who are already at the college level.
Posted on 3/21/22 at 9:38 am to lsupride87
I think there are some obvious changes that they should try to help with the bad defense, and I'm not sure why they haven't tried any of them.
Dugas, Crews, Gio in the outfield
Doughty 3B, Thompson SS, Merrifield/Bianco 2B, Tre 1B
Milazzo (when healthy) C, Berry DH
Dugas, Crews, Gio in the outfield
Doughty 3B, Thompson SS, Merrifield/Bianco 2B, Tre 1B
Milazzo (when healthy) C, Berry DH
Posted on 3/21/22 at 9:41 am to geauxtigers33
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The question is how much can a coach actually change this issue.
In one offseason, you can't.
He'll have to recruit better defensive players down the road.
Posted on 3/21/22 at 9:48 am to RogerTheShrubber
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In one offseason, you can't.
He'll have to recruit better defensive players down the road.
He didn't really have an issue to fix. They just had to play at the same level that they did last year and they aren't even coming close to doing that.
Posted on 3/21/22 at 10:01 am to doubleb
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Btw, I have heard coaches say third is tougher to play than second. I disagree. Second base requires a better athlete and he has more things to do than the third baseman. JMHO
I think the throws from second can be much more difficult to make than throws from third. They require more accuracy and touch. The 1B doesn’t have as much time to react and adjust to throws from the 2b.
Posted on 3/21/22 at 10:16 am to thunderbird1100
quote:That’s not absolute at all, different skill sets involved.
Third is absolutely more tough to play than 2B
Posted on 3/21/22 at 10:18 am to josh336
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Guess i havent seen those takes. Its a huge issue. Alot of it is personne related. But im also curious how much they work on the fundamentals and mental side of fielding
Its one thing to take 345 groundballs. Its another to focus on the very small details and mentally focus on the details
TBH, throwing errors seem to be more prevalent than booting ground balls. The number of poor throws on routine plays is honestly amazing to see from an SEC baseball team. And just for kicks, let's look at Skip's teams who were never really known for having great defenses
2001 .956
2000 .964
1999 .961
1998 .964
1997 .966
1996 .963
1995 .970
1994 .963
1993 .956
1992 .966
1991 .959
1990 .962
1989 .957
That's as far back as we kept fielding stats for the season. Our fielding % this year so far is .951
We've already made 35 errors this season. For reference, our 2017 team committed 53 errors the entire season and Paul's teams typically sat in the high 50s to low 60s range on average. There just has to be a happy medium like Skip had with sacrificing defense for offense to where every ground ball is not an adventure. We've also only turned 5 double plays through 20 games
This post was edited on 3/21/22 at 10:23 am
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