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re: A 14-team league is too large to determine a true league champion.

Posted on 7/23/21 at 12:38 am to
Posted by Solo Cam
Member since Sep 2015
34664 posts
Posted on 7/23/21 at 12:38 am to
We have 2 trash fcs games every year. Sometimes 3.

Yet we’re able to still determine a champion

And honestly - conference championships aren’t going to mean dick as the playoffs get bigger and bigger
This post was edited on 7/23/21 at 12:39 am
Posted by ImayGoLesMiles
Baton Rouge, La
Member since Feb 2015
13290 posts
Posted on 7/23/21 at 1:04 am to
This makes absolutely no sense at all.

OK, then name me who the "true champion" should have been each season since we expanded to 14 teams and give me an argument and reason why.
This post was edited on 7/23/21 at 1:06 am
Posted by ECOTIGER
westbank for life
Member since Dec 2007
3210 posts
Posted on 7/23/21 at 8:11 am to
Super conferences are inevitable.
I would imagine there will be 4 super conferences at some point. If that happens the whole idea of an expended playoff goes out the window. Those conferences won't given a shite about these small school getting into the playoff.

Each conference will probably have the best 4 teams play in a semi and conference final.

Then each conference winner move on to a 4 team playoff.
This post was edited on 7/23/21 at 8:13 am
Posted by TT
Member since Nov 2007
1235 posts
Posted on 7/23/21 at 8:13 am to
Who cares who is the SEC champion. What matters is the national champion.
Posted by poochie
Houma, la
Member since Apr 2007
6765 posts
Posted on 7/23/21 at 8:28 am to
Is there a lawn you would like me to get off of?
Posted by NorCali
Member since Feb 2015
1567 posts
Posted on 7/23/21 at 8:36 am to
So you don’t believe the College Basketball Championship yields a true champion from a 64 team field? Or any conference that determines their champion via tournament, including SEC baseball or NCAA baseball championship? It seems you are making the point that the conference champion has to be determined by non-playoff records only? Seems regressive, but just an opinion.
Posted by Jaydeaux
Covington
Member since May 2005
19529 posts
Posted on 7/23/21 at 8:47 am to
So you’re saying we dont have a true SEC champ every year? Wtf?

I’ll comfortable with 16 for the simple reason that we will get no less than 2 teams in every year going forward. NO ONE can argue we’re the best
Posted by SportsGuyNOLA
New Orleans, LA
Member since May 2014
20733 posts
Posted on 7/23/21 at 8:51 am to
Not ‘league champion’.

National Champion.

The SEC needs to add UT and OU and then break off from the NCAA and be their own everything.

With 16 members schools, they’d be no need to play non-SEC schools ever again in any sports.
Posted by tigahland
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Jun 2016
3519 posts
Posted on 7/23/21 at 8:52 am to
quote:

Zachary

quote:

With every team you add to the conference, you're having the conference championship decided less on the field.


Posted by Bjorn Cyborg
Member since Sep 2016
33867 posts
Posted on 7/23/21 at 9:10 am to
It's no different than the NFL
Posted by MLCLyons
Member since Nov 2012
4764 posts
Posted on 7/23/21 at 9:17 am to
What year has there been an issue with a "true champion" not winning the SEC? 2011 is the only year anyone could argue.
Posted by redfish99
B.R.
Member since Aug 2007
18676 posts
Posted on 7/23/21 at 9:34 am to
Another dumb take. Suk it up cupcake they comin
Posted by SammyTiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2009
78156 posts
Posted on 7/23/21 at 10:20 am to
quote:

But over the long haul, the issue should be decided on the field; and when one team cannot play almost half the teams in its own league, by definition, you are not deciding the championship on the field.


But you have a championship game from 2 teams that played over half the league each.

Do you think 8 teams is too many to determine the best in a division?
This post was edited on 7/23/21 at 10:21 am
Posted by chaso
clinton ms.
Member since Aug 2006
3199 posts
Posted on 7/23/21 at 10:28 am to
Nothing really matters to me !
Posted by jbraua
Oklahoma City, OK
Member since Oct 2007
7664 posts
Posted on 7/23/21 at 10:30 am to
quote:

So 16 would water down the ability to determine a legitimate league champion even more.



If only there was a sure fire way to have the two teams with the best records play each other to determine by contest who the true champion is.
Posted by Swamp Angel
Somewhere on a river
Member since Jul 2004
9619 posts
Posted on 7/23/21 at 11:18 am to
quote:


A 14-team league is too large to determine a true league champion.
So 16 would water down the ability to determine a legitimate league champion even more.


Don't even need to go that far. A 14 team conference is just too big anyway. Twelve teams was acceptable. Going back to ten teams would be even better.

Don't add any more teams. Just put Arky, Mizzou, A&M, and SC in a hat and draw two teams to keep so we can at least get back to twelve teams. Or just tell Mizzou and A&M to call up Texas and Okie and start their own conference.
Posted by TIGERSby10
Central Lafourche
Member since Nov 2005
7669 posts
Posted on 7/23/21 at 11:25 am to
quote:

There was no way the SEC teams who have even without Texas, I think 6 of the top 15 brands, are going to let these other teams get into the playoff and only get 2 SEC teams in.

3 or 4 minimum every year, in some years, it will be 5.


And how is this any different with only 14 SEC teams? The top SEC teams each year are always in the top 12 programs to make the playoffs. Adding Texas and OU doesn't add much to the fact that the SEC will be well represented in a 12 team playoff scenario.

Posted by soccerfüt
Location: A Series of Tubes
Member since May 2013
72685 posts
Posted on 7/23/21 at 11:26 am to
Hey Bozo*, you frick around and you find out.

And by "frick around" I mean DON'T let them in.

If you miss the bus of those two teams wanting to come over, the window closes forever and some other Conference grabs them and builds on having them.

They (UT & OU) are natural geographical fits for the SEC and lulz on Sankey, et al at the league office not letting the Aggies know any of this was happening!

*I'm calling people "Bozo" now, it's like my new thing.
Posted by PhishyTiger
Collierville
Member since Jul 2016
201 posts
Posted on 7/23/21 at 11:35 am to
quote:

So 16 would water down the ability to determine a legitimate league champion even more.


Yet a 4-team playoff for a division with 120+ schools is fine?
Posted by Old Money
LSU
Member since Sep 2012
41218 posts
Posted on 7/23/21 at 11:37 am to
Just win. It is that simple
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