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re: Why does everyone think LSU is poor?

Posted on 7/5/24 at 3:09 pm to
Posted by SOL2
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Posted on 7/5/24 at 3:09 pm to
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Posted by Miami Tiger
Miami Florida
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Posted on 7/5/24 at 3:11 pm to
I think a general fallacy on the board is that the extent of rich boosters has on the impact of a program overall. Billionaires got to be billionaires because they have smart business sense and their primary objective is to get richer. So just because OSU has a support from Pickens doesn't mean Pickens is going to open up floodgate of donations. He has a budget which is earmarked for a wide number of things and he's not going to exceed that budget. In fact schools like Oregon have to have people like Knight, otherwise they would be irrelevant in the college football world similar to Washington State. Those donation levels in the link I provided are based on historical donation levels which are reportable from public universities. LSU has a history of donation levels like that. Those donation levels exceed practically every other school in the country. Nothing trumps fan support and I think LSU fans on this board underestimate exactly how damn popular LSU is.
Posted by Prominentwon
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Member since Jan 2005
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Posted on 7/5/24 at 4:40 pm to
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Because it’s an easy excuse and this site tends to be an echo chamber with the same trolls parroting the same talking points over and over again.

Truthfully, if LSU could not compete in NIL then the back to back top 10 classes would not have happened. Not wanting to spend millions on unproven high schoolers is a bit different than not being able to spend millions.



Excellent post. The grown ups on the board understand this and agree.

Posted by Bjorn Cyborg
Member since Sep 2016
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Posted on 7/5/24 at 6:29 pm to
Because people conflate desire to waste money with ability to waste.

I think Kelly is being very deliberate about spending to protect culture and team chemistry.
Posted by Captain Crown
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Posted on 7/5/24 at 6:39 pm to
The children’s hospital story
Posted by Jor Jor The Dinosaur
Chicago, IL
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Posted on 7/5/24 at 6:52 pm to
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like when I buy groceries and write a check
Posted by classicgold
bfe
Member since Feb 2017
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Posted on 7/5/24 at 6:58 pm to
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No doubt but it’s that one Billionaire that’s dishing out the stupid money in Oregon & Miami’s case. Texas & 8-4 have stupid money no one can match. If Knight at Oregon or that dude? in Miami, write a check for recruiting say a 100 million, they don’t even have to jot it down in their book.


Oregon now has to play a physical Big10 schedule in which they will go 9-3. Once that happens their “donors” will start to rethink, as well as their commits.

Miami hasn’t been good in 20
Years. Their donor can spend as much as he wants but having 3 or 4 great skill players with a shite roster isn’t going to work. I’m ecstatic every time a player picks Miami.
Posted by brewdrees
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Posted on 7/5/24 at 8:38 pm to
We have a SHAQ!!!!
Posted by Midtiger farm
Member since Nov 2014
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Posted on 7/5/24 at 8:43 pm to
They also have to travel across the country a lot and play in shite weather more often
Posted by tenderfoot tigah
Red Stick
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Posted on 7/5/24 at 10:32 pm to
Phil Knight is worth $60 billion and wants to buy a championship before he dies. Money is of no object to this guy. He is buying anyone and everyone who wants to live in Oregon for a few years for the rest of his life and it won't even tickle his fortune.

LSU's entire booster base will never ever be able to keep up with Knight alone.

This is just one example.
Posted by Tiger2tiga
Member since Sep 2023
818 posts
Posted on 7/5/24 at 10:37 pm to
Texas has 45 billionaires but that doesn’t mean they support local universities. Jerry love Arkansas and so does the Walton. Elon isn’t a fan of Texas schools and highly doubt he supports any fb program. Stanley k grad from Missouri etc.
Posted by friendlyobservation
Member since Mar 2024
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Posted on 7/6/24 at 2:39 am to
Why do people on this board think Gordon is the only one who handles money for LSU? Do you realize how many boosters LSU has? Just because they're not out there making public NIL deals doesn't mean they're closing their checkbooks. There's a lot of donors you don't hear about with big money.
Posted by chity
Chicago, Il
Member since Dec 2008
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Posted on 7/6/24 at 7:42 am to
LSU is not poor.

It is just that. Texas, A&M, Oregon are less poor.
Posted by KennytheTiger
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Posted on 7/6/24 at 8:03 am to
Opinions are not knowledge.
Posted by UnclePat76
McHenry County Illinois
Member since Sep 2004
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Posted on 7/6/24 at 8:22 am to
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You ever took a drive around Baton Rouge? Clean, Safe, and Wealthy are not words that come to mind


LSU grads with money often live out of state. Oil money grads live in Dallas and Houston. Law money in Atlanta. Business in Chicago and New York. Tech in Los Angeles, San Jose/San Francisco and Austin. The brain drain money is being overlooked when it comes to thinking LSU isn’t getting much money from in state donors.
This post was edited on 7/6/24 at 8:26 am
Posted by LSBoosie
Member since Jun 2020
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Posted on 7/6/24 at 9:31 am to
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Why do people on this board think Gordon is the only one who handles money for LSU?

We don’t, but he’s a large part of it.
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Do you realize how many boosters LSU has?

Do you think that other schools don’t have just as many boosters?

Again, for the millionth time, it’s not that LSU doesn’t have any money. All we are saying is that LSU doesn’t have as much as some other top tier schools.
Posted by mdomingue
Lafayette, LA
Member since Nov 2010
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Posted on 7/6/24 at 9:38 am to
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The narrative on this board is that LSU is poor and they are at a disadvantage in NIL versus other schools like Texas, Alabama,Texas a&m,and Oregon.


Let me break this down.

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The narrative on this board is that LSU is poor


I have never seen this narrative. You are conflating two things. Because the above statement is not the same as the following.

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and they are at a disadvantage in NIL versus other schools like Texas, Alabama,Texas a&m,and Oregon.


This I have seen and it is accurate for for Oregon, Texas, and A&M, to say otherwise is burying your head in the sand. It doesn't mean we lose every recruiting battle, simply that if it comes down to only NIL, they have much deeper pockets. I also think LSU may be at a slight disadvantage concerning Bama, Ohio State, and Michigan. But those are competitions where LSU may be able to outbid them on specific players, just not every player.
My thinking on NIL fund ratings is money available if needed from NIL donors may significantly outpace the actual size of a so-called NIL fund at one school and be virtually non-existent at another with a higher current NIL fund valuation.

For more players than this board may think, I believe their choices are not simply money, though it will come into play.
Posted by Wichita Co Tiger
Texas
Member since Apr 2023
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Posted on 7/6/24 at 9:42 am to
Purely from a volume standpoint, I’d think schools like Texas and atm have a great advantage over LSU. Can’t imagine we have as many alumni as those schools do. Strenff in numbers
Posted by UnclePat76
McHenry County Illinois
Member since Sep 2004
3310 posts
Posted on 7/6/24 at 9:49 am to
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LSU may be at a slight disadvantage concerning Bama, Ohio State, and Michigan


Big time over Alabama in terms of rich alumni. (Which LSU has) I think the average Bama fan might contribute money they don’t have to the slime budget over our fanbase but we have more common sense. Ohio State has a HUGE slime budget from $$ alumni and small fanbase donations that add up quick. Michigan I don’t know too much about regarding how much they care about NIL but I’d have to imagine if they want to keep up with their hated southern neighbor they will have no problem raising money due to Michigan being a money school.
Posted by Swagga
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Posted on 7/6/24 at 10:00 am to
LSU doesn’t have the big boosters like a Phil knight so LSU trolls assume LSU has no money. We have a very large base with plenty deep pockets, they just aren’t as public with their input (which is a good thing IMO). Meanwhile we currently have the number 3 class and have reeled in back to back top 5-10 classes.

Kelly has been very open about how he is going to manage NIL and he’s sticking to it. I don’t know if it will work out, but I do know I trust Brian Kelly to run this program. Not getting into a bidding war over a 5 star WR isn’t going to change my feelings.
This post was edited on 7/6/24 at 10:01 am
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