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Someone mentioned last seasons Feb. J Matthews & Perkins as a NIL battle.What's the truth?

Was there behind the scenes NIL deals that had Perkins given a deal from LSU but LSU wouldn't get in a bidding war for Jacoby Matthews? I know last year by state laws we had our hands tied. I'm just curious as to how much NIL has changed recruiting. It looks like we got most of the Boot studs to stay home this season.
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JiminyCricket
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re: Someone mentioned last seasons Feb. J Matthews & Perkins as a NIL battle.What's the truth?
From what I gather, Perkins took an NIL deal but it wasn't necessarily the highest bid. Mathews took a bid from Aggie that was significantly higher than LSU's offer. That's just what i've heard though.


lsutigerelizabeth
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re: Someone mentioned last seasons Feb. J Matthews & Perkins as a NIL battle.What's the truth?
Kelly wanted Perkins no matter what. Only wanted Mathews if the price was right


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re: Someone mentioned last seasons Feb. J Matthews & Perkins as a NIL battle.What's the truth?
The rumors I've heard (from people who are generally "in the know" on these things) were: (1) Perkins was in fact an NIL win for LSU, and (2) Matthews was in fact an NIL loss for LSU (and win for TAMU).


My understanding of the situation was that it wasn't so much that LSU wasn't willing to get into a bidding war for Matthews--but rather we essentially chose to spend our remaining money to secure Perkins, rather than spending it to secure Matthews or splitting it to try and get both. Of course, this is based mostly in speculation and semi-educated guesswork. But I recall at the time that the prevailing thought was that LSU likely had the spending power to land one but not both of Perkins/Matthews--and that the two of them were always going to be split up between LSU and TAMU in some configuration.


geauxpurple
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re: Someone mentioned last seasons Feb. J Matthews & Perkins as a NIL battle.What's the truth?
That is my understanding. We got Perkins and Kelly put an end to the 11th hour bidding war for Matthews. If it was going to be one or the other but not both then I am happy with the way things turned out


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LSU82BILL
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re: Someone mentioned last seasons Feb. J Matthews & Perkins as a NIL battle.What's the truth?
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LSU likely had the spending power to land one but not both of Perkins/Matthews-


And WHO is LSU in this scenario? Universities are not allowed to directly compensate athletes for use of their NIL.


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re: Someone mentioned last seasons Feb. J Matthews & Perkins as a NIL battle.What's the truth?
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And WHO is LSU in this scenario? Universities are not allowed to directly compensate athletes for use of their NIL.


That's understood and doesn't need to be said in every thread.


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re: Someone mentioned last seasons Feb. J Matthews & Perkins as a NIL battle.What's the truth?
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And WHO is LSU in this scenario? Universities are not allowed to directly compensate athletes for use of their NIL.



There’s always that one jackass…. You’re an auditor aren’t you


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LSU82BILL
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re: Someone mentioned last seasons Feb. J Matthews & Perkins as a NIL battle.What's the truth?
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That's understood and doesn't need to be said in every thread.


So explain to me why it is being suggested that there is a limited amount of NIL money available. Whether it be a collective or a group of boosters, I'd think that you can alwatys expand the group of contributors - especially to keep a kid with LA ties.


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re: Someone mentioned last seasons Feb. J Matthews & Perkins as a NIL battle.What's the truth?
You're taking the word limit too literal in this instance. That "limit" is ever-movable and is more attributed to how, and more importantly who, that money is spent. When things are all over for this class and the birds start chirping a little more, the Darron Reed scenario will be the perfect example of how there are "limits" to our NIL piggy bank. LSU has money in the background. Don't ever doubt that. We just have guys that are a little more shrewd with their money and vastly more knowledgeable of the game and talent than many other schools guys are. We've always spent very well. Track our past stars from the state of Florida and you'll understand the type of talent our money tends to buy.


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LSU82BILL
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re: Someone mentioned last seasons Feb. J Matthews & Perkins as a NIL battle.What's the truth?
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the Darron Reed scenario will be the perfect example of how there are "limits" to our NIL piggy bank. LSU has money in the background. Don't ever doubt that. We just have guys that are a little more shrewd with their money


A shadow organization of the same shrewd guys and the same piggy bank that paid $17 million to make our former coach go away?


mikeytig
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re: Someone mentioned last seasons Feb. J Matthews & Perkins as a NIL battle.What's the truth?
college football nneds a salary cap


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re: Someone mentioned last seasons Feb. J Matthews & Perkins as a NIL battle.What's the truth?
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explain to me why it is being suggested that there is a limited amount of NIL money available. Whether it be a collective or a group of boosters, I'd think that you can alwatys expand the group of contributors



lmfao are you really trying to make the argument that money is not an economically scarce resource? If money was not scarce then this entire conversation would be pointless because money would have no value.
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docTQ4
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re: Someone mentioned last seasons Feb. J Matthews & Perkins as a NIL battle.What's the truth?
Why make a post if you are going to be so condescending about every response? The NIL has been taken for granted and the program did not have any guard rails from the NCAA and has essentially made recruiting free agency. There is no shadow organization, it’s boosters that love LSU. They give us a cap on what they’re willing to spend for these deals and LSU tallies it up and spends the $ accordingly. What more do you need to know?


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lsufanva
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re: Someone mentioned last seasons Feb. J Matthews & Perkins as a NIL battle.What's the truth?
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A shadow organization of the same shrewd guys and the same piggy bank that paid $17 million to make our former coach go away?


1st of all, paying off a bad coach is a far different cry than paying hundreds of thousands for a 17 year old kid that has done nothing in college.
Now that the difference in business is out of the way, they sure came up with that 17 mil quick just when we were broke right? And they didn't balk at it. Had to be done. If we can come up with 17 mil(though it's spread out) in a few months do you really think we can't afford a few $150 thousand recruits? Again it's how and where that money goes.


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Geauxldilocks
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re: Someone mentioned last seasons Feb. J Matthews & Perkins as a NIL battle.What's the truth?
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college football nneds a salary cap


That would require a union and collective bargaining by the players. Be careful what you wish for.


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GeauxO19
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re: Someone mentioned last seasons Feb. J Matthews & Perkins as a NIL battle.What's the truth?
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Kelly wanted Perkins no matter what. Only wanted Mathews if the price was right


it came out right after that Matthews wanted LSU but his family took the money the night before.


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re: Someone mentioned last seasons Feb. J Matthews & Perkins as a NIL battle.What's the truth?
The money is endless.


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IotaTiger
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re: Someone mentioned last seasons Feb. J Matthews & Perkins as a NIL battle.What's the truth?
Jimmy Cricket speaks the truth ..


lesthemadhatter
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re: Someone mentioned last seasons Feb. J Matthews & Perkins as a NIL battle.What's the truth?
Any chance Matthews comes back?


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