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re: LSU Baseball 2026 (and beyond) Recruiting Thread
Posted on 6/27/26 at 9:25 am to Lester Earl
Posted on 6/27/26 at 9:25 am to Lester Earl
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It should be a relief to us that we do not have to use TJ as a coping mechanism anymore.
I’m not saying I disagree but Jay seemed to believe in him so much that he was willing to pass on guys in the portal for what he had on the staff. If you assume last years inconsistency will translate to next year then we should have completely overhauled our entire pitching staff outside of a couple guys.
This post was edited on 6/27/26 at 9:28 am
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Posted on 6/27/26 at 9:25 am to Lester Earl
Some pitchers may come back better than others immediately after TJ. Paz was not known for big control/command issues in HS. You are writing off Paz way too soon IMO.
Posted on 6/27/26 at 9:47 am to SoloTiger
Agreed. The last thing to come back after TJ is command of pitches. Especially secondary pitches.
I don't think Paz leaving is a huge deal for the future of LSU, but I absolutely would love for him to be with LSU the next 2 years than him go somewhere else. Obviously caught Jay off guard since Jay has specifically mentioned him in multiple interviews about someone who will be a future starter. Bet he was meaning that as a future starter for another team.
I don't think Paz leaving is a huge deal for the future of LSU, but I absolutely would love for him to be with LSU the next 2 years than him go somewhere else. Obviously caught Jay off guard since Jay has specifically mentioned him in multiple interviews about someone who will be a future starter. Bet he was meaning that as a future starter for another team.
Posted on 6/27/26 at 9:51 am to SoloTiger
I agree.It is really hard to predict. Anderson had command issues his freshman season, and they dominated his sophomore season ( a and still is). Noot never made it back, and Shores struggled until a good bit of2025 and then got it going. Paz sems to have great stuff, but command was an issue. Was that a result of TJ or a flaw in him? The 2027 season would have told the story.
Posted on 6/27/26 at 10:07 am to mikejsjr0912
Throwing this out as a thought experiment but is there a world in which you lean more heavily in the portal for starting pitching relative to other positions? Obviously if you have “no doubter” type guys coming through your program then it can take some of the pressure off but it just seems like a position that holds so much weight in determining your season. Would suck for guys like casan but, with losing Paz you are gambling on Casan and Ricken to make a jump and for Schmidt (I have more confidence in him) to progress into potentially a dominate Friday night guy.
Seems like when we’ve done well we’ve had Friday and Saturday guys who can eat a lot of innings.
Seems like when we’ve done well we’ve had Friday and Saturday guys who can eat a lot of innings.
Posted on 6/27/26 at 10:12 am to SoloTiger
8BB/9 can’t be blamed on Tommy Johnny. I’m not writing him off, but that isn’t an over night fix. Let someone else try and make him happy at the expense of winning.
Posted on 6/27/26 at 10:18 am to hall59tiger
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I’m not saying I disagree but Jay seemed to believe in him so much that he was willing to pass on guys in the portal for what he had on the staff. If you assume last years inconsistency will translate to next year then we should have completely overhauled our entire pitching staff outside of a couple guys.
Exactly. He mentioned Paz by name several times in interviews. 90% of our staff had trouble finding the zone this year.
This post was edited on 6/27/26 at 10:20 am
Posted on 6/27/26 at 10:25 am to mikejsjr0912
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Anderson had command issues his freshman season
Anderson had multiple high end flashes that Paz didn’t. They also misused Anderson & gave him very little rope when he should have been given more opportunities, particularly as a starter and not in the middle of innings.
Even so we are talking about a guy (Paz) who walked batters at twice the rate of Anderson. Not comparable whatsoever
Posted on 6/27/26 at 10:52 am to Lester Earl
I recall Paz having multiple midweek starts where he would come out in the 1st inning and look like a Freshman All American with a 1,2,3 inning. Come out for the 2nd inning and look like he was completely lost. It was very strange to me. I recall at least 3 games this happened and it was mostly earlier in the year.
Posted on 6/27/26 at 11:28 am to BayTiger13
Yep. He flashed it for sure. Hard to say what caused him to lose it.
Posted on 6/27/26 at 12:20 pm to BayTiger13
Little bit of Thatcher Hurd in him where one bad call or one walk would just completely derail his entire game. You almost needed someone hot as soon as he got on the mound because when adversity hit, it was over.
I said it before, but you want a guy like Paz or Roxy that’s got big talent you need to develop, but you can’t have a whole team of those guys.
I said it before, but you want a guy like Paz or Roxy that’s got big talent you need to develop, but you can’t have a whole team of those guys.
Posted on 6/27/26 at 12:24 pm to BayTiger13
He had a few sequences where he looked good. But honestly not sure if it was ever more than 2-3 batters at a time.
It’s worth mentioning he was throwing as early as June 2025 at the mlb draft combine coming back from TJS. Sure, you can’t replicate live at bats but I think it’s disingenuous to blame his struggles on surgery. He had need 8mo between then and his first live AB, including a full participation in LSU’s intrasquad scrimmages. I would buy this excuse more if he was jumping in mid-season after recovery.
It’s worth mentioning he was throwing as early as June 2025 at the mlb draft combine coming back from TJS. Sure, you can’t replicate live at bats but I think it’s disingenuous to blame his struggles on surgery. He had need 8mo between then and his first live AB, including a full participation in LSU’s intrasquad scrimmages. I would buy this excuse more if he was jumping in mid-season after recovery.
Posted on 6/27/26 at 12:36 pm to BayTiger13
100% This happened a few times with Paz.
This post was edited on 6/27/26 at 12:40 pm
Posted on 6/27/26 at 12:39 pm to Lester Earl
I agree, just kind of a blanket that the first year after not pitching a year could be erratic. Really makes it hard to judge a guy.
Posted on 6/27/26 at 1:00 pm to Lester Earl
quote:I disagree with this.
It was funny how Johnson treated Paz vs say Aiden Moffett who had almost the same profile. He gave Paz a ton of opportunity but in the end im not sure they are much different.
Paz profiled as a starter throwing mid 90s (up to 97) whereas Moffett was always a back end guy with a triple digit FB and wipeout breaking stuff. Moffett, in order to be at his best, always had to be a max effort guy.
I was the biggest Moffett guy on this board, and I think he should've gotten more of a shot here (and honestly think he would have in '25 if he stuck around) but there's a reason he's started 1 game in his 64 appearances post high school.
This post was edited on 6/27/26 at 1:04 pm
Posted on 6/27/26 at 1:59 pm to PP7 for heisman
So do we bring in 3 portal arms now? Or just the righty and lefty that’s been discussed
Posted on 6/27/26 at 2:08 pm to Tigerfan14
Paz wasn't being counted on to be a SP next year. We have 3 SPs in 2027 out of Moore, Schmidt, Evans, and Hood. 3 of those guys leave after 2027 and ideally Paz would have proven something in high leverage relief by that point to give him an inside track at starting in 2028 along with Hood, Ricken, Velasquez, and any others who earn time next year. I see this as more of a loss for 2028 than 2027 but there's plenty of time to fix that.
Moffett started earning a lot more PT towards the end of his 2nd season. Not sure why he left but he got less time at Texas though I think he got hurt IIRC
This is essential roster construction. You need a team that's good enough to win most of their games while you let your high upside guys work through their struggles so you can give them time to develop by May while still being a host
Moffett started earning a lot more PT towards the end of his 2nd season. Not sure why he left but he got less time at Texas though I think he got hurt IIRC
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I said it before, but you want a guy like Paz or Roxy that’s got big talent you need to develop, but you can’t have a whole team of those guys.
This is essential roster construction. You need a team that's good enough to win most of their games while you let your high upside guys work through their struggles so you can give them time to develop by May while still being a host
Posted on 6/27/26 at 2:36 pm to PP7 for heisman
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Paz profiled as a starter throwing mid 90s (up to 97) whereas Moffett was always a back end guy with a triple digit FB and wipeout breaking stuff. Moffett, in order to be at his best, always had to be a max effort guy.
Moffett faced 4 batters as a freshman
Paz was terrible and still appeared in 17 games.
Paz was clearly forced into games to get work and keep happy. Don't really care what his profile was coming in. He was never going to start (read: go deep into games) games this year.
By profile i meant: hard thrower, no control. Your role doesnt really matter when you cant throw strikes.
This post was edited on 6/27/26 at 2:38 pm
Posted on 6/27/26 at 2:52 pm to Lester Earl
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Moffett faced 4 batters as a freshman Paz was terrible and still appeared in 17 games
Huge difference in the quality of the rest of the pitching staff in those two freshmen seasons. Paz pitched a lot out of pure necessity and Jay is always looking ahead when it comes to getting guys playing time.
Posted on 6/27/26 at 3:48 pm to Lester Earl
He isn’t any good anyways, did we do it right Lester?
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