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re: Embody’s Class Prediction 3.0

Posted on 10/6/22 at 12:15 am to
Posted by Bayou_Tiger_225
Third Earth
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Posted on 10/6/22 at 12:15 am to
He called LSU fans spoiled in the kicking game because we had Cole Tracy who was automatic from 50 and in, followed by Cade York.
Posted by PUB
New Orleans
Member since Sep 2017
18206 posts
Posted on 10/6/22 at 1:30 am to
LSU owes Kelly $100 million. Does anyone really think he gives a shite?
Posted by Toptigerfan86
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2022
2833 posts
Posted on 10/6/22 at 6:52 am to
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It was tongue in cheek about how great lsus kicking game has been recently


Doesn’t matter. There is obviously an agenda here and the mob is gathering.

There were people within the “inner circle” of LSU athletics who celebrated when Saban left. Like Saban, Kelly is very much an outsider who can come off abrasively. Undoubtedly he will piss some people off and there will be attempts to undermine him from certain segments.

I suspect this is one of those attempts. Polian probably cut someone off who is accustomed to being able to hang around and get whatever info they wanted and now we are gonna twist every word the guy says.

There’s no benefit to LSU recruiting or LSU in general by bringing this accusation to this forum except that it served the purpose of getting some to blindly follow the negativity against BK and his staff.

Now is it possible that this stuff has some merit? Of course. Is it also possible that it’s being misrepresented just as Polians comment about us being spoiled was misrepresented?? Much more likely.

The more I read this forum the more I have to question the motives and allegiance of some posters.
Posted by wadewilson
Member since Sep 2009
36540 posts
Posted on 10/6/22 at 7:35 am to
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Polian is not a good recruiting coordinator. He’s run off our good recruiting analysts and is rubbing a lot of the staff the wrong way. He’s even trying to convince Kelly that we don’t need recruiting analysts at all. Look at the top recruiting programs and how many analysts they have. Those guys are responsible for a lot of the behind the scenes conversations with recruits. They keep up the small talk and put in a ton of leg work that coaches simply don’t have the time for.

Polian stays out of d line recruiting, which is probably the strongest unit in this class. Cain is an all star coach. Frank is doing what he can in state but Polian is just a chump living off his dad’s last name. I’m telling y’all that Polian is hurting the future of this program with his shite special teams, bad recruiting strategies and being an arrogant prick in general. Everything is always someone else’s fault with him. People are talking.


Hi Derek.
Posted by wadewilson
Member since Sep 2009
36540 posts
Posted on 10/6/22 at 7:41 am to
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He called LSU fans spoiled when we criticized his special teams unit.


So this is a lie.

The "spoiled" comment was before the season and in reference to how elite our last 2 kickers were.

I don't trust anything you say. Whoever your "source" is, if they exist, has an angle, as do you.
Posted by wadewilson
Member since Sep 2009
36540 posts
Posted on 10/6/22 at 7:43 am to
quote:


I suspect this is one of those attempts. Polian probably cut someone off who is accustomed to being able to hang around and get whatever info they wanted and now we are gonna twist every word the guy says.


100% this is what is happening here.

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The more I read this forum the more I have to question the motives and allegiance of some posters.


Yep.
Posted by beardkp
H-Town
Member since Feb 2013
1015 posts
Posted on 10/6/22 at 9:40 am to
I guess he's got Toviano pinned to A&M then? Probably shouldnt be surprised after the David Hicks commitment, everyone thought OU only for it to be A&M for the Texas kid. This feels the same, with everyone thinking LSU for a bit now for another Texas Kid.
Posted by Chalkywhite84
New orleans
Member since Dec 2016
27218 posts
Posted on 10/6/22 at 9:54 am to
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As for Polian, special teams have regressed big time. Who knew McMahon would be such a big loss.




Seriously?
He was one of the best special teams coordinators in the country.

As far as polian, multiple people are saying he comes off as an a-hole, so i don't believe it's an agenda.
This post was edited on 10/6/22 at 9:56 am
Posted by hall59tiger
Member since Oct 2013
2437 posts
Posted on 10/6/22 at 10:21 am to
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As far as polian, multiple people are saying he comes off as an a-hole, so i don't believe it's an agenda.


Coming off as an a-hole and being toxic to our program/recruiting are two very different things. No bigger a-hole in college football than Saban and he’s the best recruiter out there.
He may be a problem but no one has provided evidence to support that notion. I agree that he comes across as smug/arrogant but no one should stone the guy for a few flippant comments.
Posted by SoloTiger
Member since Aug 2016
9493 posts
Posted on 10/6/22 at 10:26 am to
I realize McMahon is well respected. Maybe a better way to phrase it was not many could have expected this big of a drop off IMO.

I give some leniency to the fact that LSU is short on scholarships, which can really impact special teams coverage units, etc.

Still, the myriad of mistakes we have seen points back to things like poor evaluation and preparation IMO (i.e. coaching).
Posted by Lester Earl
Member since Nov 2003
278385 posts
Posted on 10/6/22 at 11:23 am to
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As far as polian, multiple people are saying he comes off as an a-hole, so i don't believe it's an agenda.


The same guy who says Polian called lsu spoiled (which wasn’t true & completely out of context) is the one saying that he told an in state recruit he didn’t need to recruit him. But here you are eating it up
Posted by bbap
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2006
96012 posts
Posted on 10/6/22 at 11:25 am to
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He called LSU fans spoiled when we criticized his special teams unit. It would be one thing if they were average, but they have been mostly shite. We aren’t spoiled to expect extra points to be automatic, punt returners to catch the ball cleanly and pretty much any of the other basics.


Wow you completely made up how/tone and when that comment was made.

Pretty clear you have an agenda if you are willing to lie that badly.
This post was edited on 10/6/22 at 11:28 am
Posted by redfieldk717
Alec Box
Member since Oct 2011
28117 posts
Posted on 10/6/22 at 2:40 pm to
Yeah, I’m going to edit. I just listened to what a group of people were saying while shooting the shite and either misunderstood or they said it wrong.
Posted by redfieldk717
Alec Box
Member since Oct 2011
28117 posts
Posted on 10/6/22 at 2:50 pm to
I was wrong about the spoiled comments but I like Coach Kelly and the whole staff really. I don’t have an agenda other than posting relevant information on a message board. Just because it’s not all sunshine, doesn’t mean there’s an agenda. I don’t know Polian personally and I really don’t give a shite if he’s fired or here again next year. I’ve heard the same thing from multiple people on different occasions.

Like I said earlier, he’s not going to run the program into the ground but he’s not going to be the guy to maximize our recruiting. If he costs lsu a few difference making recruits a year, then that sucks. If he’s difficult to work with and people like Frank leave, then that sucks.

Posted by Mr Clean
New Iberia
Member since Aug 2006
49200 posts
Posted on 10/6/22 at 3:54 pm to
You don’t have to keep explaining/defending yourself.

I heard some of the same exact things.
Posted by Magician2
Member since Oct 2015
14553 posts
Posted on 10/6/22 at 4:02 pm to
Idk how Polian is recruiting or as a person in the building behind closed doors. But I and every lsu fan knows he's been a terrible ST coordinator so far with little to no improvement. That is objectively a fact and there's no hiding or running.

He just seems like the good ole BBQ buddy we are accustomed to having from the les and O days.

Not shocked at all nobody from the media has called out how terrible ST has been and where the accountability is. If Kelly keeps saying "we have to coach better" he'll learn soon enough that shite will eventually get old.
Posted by Sissidog02
Member since Jan 2020
5332 posts
Posted on 10/6/22 at 5:59 pm to
Right he said it earlier, before any games played, he was referring to Tracy and York and Atkins three great kicking specialists. If he would’ve said after Florida St game that would be a bad look. He did however sound like a dik after the early July run. He said something like “ Well y’all happy now” that was his first statement on recruiting.
Posted by Tiger Tracker
Austin,TX
Member since Nov 2015
7232 posts
Posted on 10/6/22 at 6:02 pm to
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I heard some of the same exact things


Can you clarify what things he said that you also heard? Like another poster mentioned there's a big difference in being a prick and running off recruits and employees.
Posted by redfieldk717
Alec Box
Member since Oct 2011
28117 posts
Posted on 10/6/22 at 7:08 pm to
Yeah, but I was wrong on the context of his fan comment. Just want to be fair with the criticism.
Posted by GeauxTigers9907
Houston
Member since Dec 2015
530 posts
Posted on 10/7/22 at 11:45 am to
I don’t neither but i can confirm it’s a lot that a lot of people don’t know about him and I’ll leave it at that. As far as him being in the know, i can also confirm that’s not all they way true.
This post was edited on 10/11/22 at 1:21 pm
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