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re: DT and CB desperation is overblown
Posted on 1/30/24 at 9:24 am to NotaStarGazer
Posted on 1/30/24 at 9:24 am to NotaStarGazer
Did you even watch the LSU Defense this year or this you just get up and go get a Beer until the offense came back out?
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Posted on 1/30/24 at 9:37 am to The Pirate King
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How many of those 13 are SEC-quality starting CB's? not playing out of position, not walk-ons, not true freshmen that weigh 150 pounds and need a lot of development.
Then why the frick are they on the roster. Pretty sure BK knows more about football than everyone here. Besides he clearly stated building the roster through HS is his priority which means minimal transfers to not scare off new guys.
Posted on 1/30/24 at 10:01 am to NotaStarGazer
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But I have never been a Burns fan...led team in tackles I believe but that is because so many passes are caught in from of him plus he comes back to remedy a missed tackle with a made one on the same play
Maybe those tackles were made to cover up someone else's mistake but since Burns is the one making the tackle after a gain you think he blew the coverage. No doubt the defense greatly under performed but there is a hysterical need on this board to scapegoat certain players in particular Major Burns, Maason Smith and Sage Ryan. Most of you have no idea what their respective assignments were on a particular play but participate in the echo chamber of criticism.
Posted on 1/30/24 at 10:23 am to NotaStarGazer
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I will admit the DT position needs 1 more good player. I think Guillory will be fine, but Lee hasn't shown me much. Washington is an unknown. But I fully expect Paris Shand who I liked this season to move to DT. And there is some amnesia going on here that LSU DT's in 2023 were more than average...they were not. Wingo in 2022 was outstanding but those torn muscles related to his pelvic area did him in for 2023. And I don't think anyone could possibly state that Maason Smith was anything more than average this past season...obviously not having recovered from his ACL in 2021.
Go through the DL depth chart, specifically DT. Injuries are common at that position and we have no depth. And our starters are average.
That is a serious issue and I think the coaches know it and will try to add 2-3 in Spring.
This post was edited on 1/30/24 at 10:29 am
Posted on 1/30/24 at 10:25 am to Tzanghi
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Reliford now #50 overall in ON3’s final rankings.
If we're banking on Reliford and McKinley getting huge minutes as freshmen, we are in trouble. That is a tough position to play effectively as an 18 year old.
Posted on 1/30/24 at 10:53 am to LifeAquatic
We need the two The OSU guys and Alexander to be ready to go. Then we coach up the young ones. That's why we went and grabbed Coach Raymond back. Scheme fits and coaching will boost the guys, they have talent just need consistency and growth.
This post was edited on 1/30/24 at 10:54 am
Posted on 1/30/24 at 1:03 pm to LifeAquatic
Johnson and Brown will be the starting corners..
Zy or one of those guys will move to nickel... Gilbert will be a good safety...
I think the DB's we are good... still need some beef on IDL.... Shand, Washington, Guillory, Lee just aint enough... savion should gain 15-20 lbs and move inside but you still need another... gotta have at least 6....
still running into numbers problems too...
Zy or one of those guys will move to nickel... Gilbert will be a good safety...
I think the DB's we are good... still need some beef on IDL.... Shand, Washington, Guillory, Lee just aint enough... savion should gain 15-20 lbs and move inside but you still need another... gotta have at least 6....
still running into numbers problems too...
Posted on 1/30/24 at 1:54 pm to CatfishJohn
I don’t think anyone would dispute that we’re in trouble in the DL.
Posted on 1/30/24 at 8:13 pm to CatfishJohn
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That is a tough position to play effectively as an 18 year old.
True, but Devin Godchaux did it and did it well.
Posted on 1/31/24 at 8:51 am to NotaStarGazer
You are an interesting poster. I have seen some good and bad posts from you. You are all over the place.
You aren't far off on CB, but we need another starter level guy.
You are wrong on Dline, especially DT. This will never get proven either way because we will surely add a couple of guys in the spring portal. We aren't playing with just the guys we have have now.
Shone Washington is the x factor with the current roster. He is big ole boy ghat could make a difference if he plays well.
You made a correct comment about about needing another pass rusher besides Swinson. I know Womack doesn't play the Jack, but I think he will get in the backfield a bit next year.
You aren't far off on CB, but we need another starter level guy.
You are wrong on Dline, especially DT. This will never get proven either way because we will surely add a couple of guys in the spring portal. We aren't playing with just the guys we have have now.
Shone Washington is the x factor with the current roster. He is big ole boy ghat could make a difference if he plays well.
You made a correct comment about about needing another pass rusher besides Swinson. I know Womack doesn't play the Jack, but I think he will get in the backfield a bit next year.
Posted on 1/31/24 at 9:39 am to KWL85
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but we need another starter level guy.
You are wrong on Dline, especially DT. This will never get proven either way because we will surely add a couple of guys in the spring portal. We aren't playing with just the guys we have have now.
Shone Washington is the x factor with the current roster. He is big ole boy ghat could make a difference if he plays well.
You made a correct comment about about needing another pass rusher besides Swinson. I know Womack doesn't play the Jack, but I think he will get in the backfield a bit next year.
Def need another starter at corner like you said.
Will for sure be adding min two guys at dt.
I think shone Washington is going to surprise people
Posted on 1/31/24 at 9:58 am to Chalkywhite84
Will be incredibly helpful if Shone can walk in an make a difference. Off the top of my head, I think Guillory is the only real big body on the DL now.
As a last resort, and if they don't pick up another guy or two by end of spring, I wonder if any of the young OL might see the field quicker on DL. The loss of Zalance Heard hurts the depth of OL just a bit, so, again, this would be a last resort. But it's not unprecedented... Fitzgerald West being the most recent attempt.
As a last resort, and if they don't pick up another guy or two by end of spring, I wonder if any of the young OL might see the field quicker on DL. The loss of Zalance Heard hurts the depth of OL just a bit, so, again, this would be a last resort. But it's not unprecedented... Fitzgerald West being the most recent attempt.
Posted on 1/31/24 at 4:47 pm to USAFTiger42
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Then why the frick are they on the roster. Pretty sure BK knows more about football than everyone here. Besides he clearly stated building the roster through HS is his priority which means minimal transfers to not scare off new guys.
So where are all of the elite CB's out of high school that we are getting? In 2024 the top 10 CB's are made up of 3 Alabama commits, 2 Georgia commits, 2 Ohio State commits, and 1 from Texas, FSU, and Oregon.
Posted on 1/31/24 at 7:01 pm to epbart
I will state again that I am not the only one who has talked about Paris Shand moving inside. Pretty sure Mike Detillier interviewed by Dandy Don said the same thing. And MD thinks he is a pretty darn good player...I know I do. He and Savion Jones I believe are both north of 280. And SJ as several have mentioned with his added weight isn't fast enough to be on the end of the line anymore. Thus, there are two players right there that could be playing inside and should be playing inside.
And I'm not against a real stud CB being added but LSU IMO doesn't need "depth players" in the secondary. 20 is enough for CBs + S. And BTW, someone acted like some might be walkons. Nope...I count 20 who will be on the fall roster as scholarship players unless someone else enters the portal.
And I'm not against a real stud CB being added but LSU IMO doesn't need "depth players" in the secondary. 20 is enough for CBs + S. And BTW, someone acted like some might be walkons. Nope...I count 20 who will be on the fall roster as scholarship players unless someone else enters the portal.
Posted on 1/31/24 at 7:06 pm to ArcticTiger
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Did you even watch the LSU Defense this year or this you just get up and go get a Beer until the offense came back out?
Yeah, I watched the secondary and they were to some extent blamed for the QB eating a hot dog back in the pocket and ordering extra mustard while he scanned the field about 3 times because LSU had a pathetic pass rush. I will also point out that TR FR were trying to hold down the fort back there. The secondary would have been much better obviously if their best player Greg Brooks hadn't developed a brain tumor. That forced TR FR like Yaites and Stamps and Toviano and Allen and Hughes to play a lot when they should have been brought along more slowly.
Oh, and I guess you aren't one to blame the defensive coaching staff like many here do. Otherwise, you might think the talent was there but the scheme was flawed.
Posted on 2/1/24 at 7:39 am to NotaStarGazer
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I will admit the DT position needs 1 more good player. I think Guillory will be fine, but Lee hasn't shown me much. Washington is an unknown. But I fully expect Paris Shand who I liked this season to move to DT. And there is some amnesia going on here that LSU DT's in 2023 were more than average...they were not. Wingo in 2022 was outstanding but those torn muscles related to his pelvic area did him in for 2023. And I don't think anyone could possibly state that Maason Smith was anything more than average this past season
How was this supposed to make anyone feel an ounce better about DT?
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