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re: Does there need to be an NCAA investigation into what Leigh did?
Posted on 1/4/21 at 5:36 am to Datbayoubengal
Posted on 1/4/21 at 5:36 am to Datbayoubengal
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Didn't a TE/OL do something similar to LSU that got us a recruiting violation? He ended up going to Bama and transferring or something.
Womack, O-lineman
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Posted on 1/4/21 at 6:39 am to js1591
nope,
just learn to not get played like so many other players have done to us.
the do it to other schools, but just act like it didn't bother you.
i just don't think that you want to be the one to do it.
just learn to not get played like so many other players have done to us.
the do it to other schools, but just act like it didn't bother you.
i just don't think that you want to be the one to do it.
Posted on 1/4/21 at 9:15 am to js1591
shite happens every year. Let it go. He can go to the ACC and get their shite pushed in while going to the CFP. Without elite qb play, Clemson isn't great. Two all timers in Watson and Lawrence. Can't keep that up.
Posted on 1/4/21 at 9:31 am to LifeAquatic
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Oh my god this is a whole new level of cringey butthurt saltiness.
He is correct to some extent. If a school had contact with a signed player that is a violation. Not sure what the impact is on the player.
Remember Matt Womack. He signed FA papers with us and therefore coaches had unlimited contact with him. He then flipped to Bama and we had to report a violation for which we received penalty
Posted on 1/4/21 at 9:39 am to js1591
To me it's simple, if a kid signs then the school needs to disclose it. Enough with this signing but waiting one-two months to announce crap.
Posted on 1/4/21 at 9:52 am to BayouCatFan
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If he signed with LSU and acted the same way none of you would have a problem with it. Stop being hypocrites
<<<<< would
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Somewhere behind Leigh's actions is an adult pulling the strings.
And they're complicit too
Posted on 1/4/21 at 9:52 am to CP3forMVP
They should require the kid and parent to sign something prior to an official visit declaring that he hasn’t signed with another team. I think it’s shitty, but the real issue is that schools can only take so many kids for official visits. Likewise, schools only have so much money to spend on official visits and recruiting efforts. This kid didn’t screw LSU as much as he did other kids who could have visited in his place or revived the recruiting efforts / contacts he received.
Posted on 1/4/21 at 9:57 am to BillF
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It wasn't Leatherwood who signed financial papers with LSU and then flipped to Bama. It was the Mississippi kid named Womack or something like that.
You are correct. It was Chance Womack, not Leatherwood. Not sure how I got those two confused.
Posted on 1/4/21 at 10:19 am to michael corleone
Michael, there weren't any official visits this year, so that didn't enter into any of the recruiting mess that this turned into.
Another thing that bugs me...his mother excuses his actions by saying that he's just a kid. Well, maybe she should actually be a parent and tell the kid not to mislead people.
Another thing that bugs me...his mother excuses his actions by saying that he's just a kid. Well, maybe she should actually be a parent and tell the kid not to mislead people.
Posted on 1/4/21 at 10:34 am to js1591
This is called a silent signing and it is legal now. The NCAA should review this and just tell recruits that they sign and it is public or they don't sign. All signings should be public, this is fair to everyone.
Posted on 1/4/21 at 10:36 am to Weaver
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shite happens every year. Let it go.
People that are saying this are missing the point. We don't want the kid, we want what happened with the deceit and waste of financial expenses towards a kid that's already signed elsewhere to be prohibited in the future.
Posted on 1/4/21 at 10:46 am to js1591
Reading between the lines, it sounds like what may have happened is that, to protect the value of his televised announcement, he was required to sign an NDA with whoever broadcast it. So he may have felt legally obligated to keep it quiet even once he signed. To me the problem—as usual—is too much money involved in the whole process.
Posted on 1/4/21 at 10:50 am to js1591
After all the info coming out, I actually don't blame Leigh all that much. He is a kid doing what the adults around him are telling him to do.
The blame falls on the following:
1) His mom. She should have realized immediately, or at least as soon as coaches continued to recruit her son after he already signed his LOI, that this wasn't going to be a good look for them. At best it would look bad on Clemson as a tactic to get their opponents to waste time and it actually back fired worse than that because it made Tristan look like a low character kid. I also don't believe that they signed a non disclosure agreement with the broadcast without any compensation, otherwise, what were the repercussions going to be for telling schools that he already signed?
2) The broadcast execs. They knew this would make the kid look bad but they pushed for it anyway.
3) Dabo. He also knew it would look bad on the kid and his program but it would hurt other top programs so who cares right?
The blame falls on the following:
1) His mom. She should have realized immediately, or at least as soon as coaches continued to recruit her son after he already signed his LOI, that this wasn't going to be a good look for them. At best it would look bad on Clemson as a tactic to get their opponents to waste time and it actually back fired worse than that because it made Tristan look like a low character kid. I also don't believe that they signed a non disclosure agreement with the broadcast without any compensation, otherwise, what were the repercussions going to be for telling schools that he already signed?
2) The broadcast execs. They knew this would make the kid look bad but they pushed for it anyway.
3) Dabo. He also knew it would look bad on the kid and his program but it would hurt other top programs so who cares right?
Posted on 1/4/21 at 11:53 am to Rhettro
On e Leigh signed the all American game contract, which stopped him from saying he signed. He should of at least said he will stop all recruiting.
Posted on 1/4/21 at 11:53 am to alschroed
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This is called a silent signing and it is legal now. The NCAA should review this and just tell recruits that they sign and it is public or they don't sign. All signings should be public, this is fair to everyone.
The NCAA should look into this not to punish the kid, but to set up a system where schools will know that they have to quit recruiting a kid because he signed already. This is just common sense. It prevents tampering, saves the schools time and money, and let’s them have time to go elsewhere for another player to fill their open slot.
Posted on 1/4/21 at 12:02 pm to misey94
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You are correct. It was Chance Womack, not Leatherwood.
Matt Womack
Chance Warmack was a future top-10 pick and NFL bust, but never committed to LSU.
Posted on 1/4/21 at 12:05 pm to FtHuntTiger
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Reading between the lines, it sounds like what may have happened is that, to protect the value of his televised announcement, he was required to sign an NDA with whoever broadcast it. So he may have felt legally obligated to keep it quiet even once he signed. To me the problem—as usual—is too much money involved in the whole process.
He also signed an NLI, which includes this provision:
quote:
I understand all participating conferences and institutions are obligated to respect my signing and shall cease contact with me and my family members after my signing this NLI which includes me and my family members not initiating contact with athletic staffs at other institutions. Any contact in excess of an exchange of a greeting is not permitted regardless of the conversation. The conversation does not have to result in recruiting discussion for a recruiting ban violation to occur. I shall notify any coach who contacts me that I have signed an NLI. Once I enroll in the institution named in this document, the NLI Recruiting Ban is no longer in effect and I shall be governed by applicable NCAA bylaws.
Posted on 1/4/21 at 12:54 pm to js1591
I feel if u already signed, you shouldn't make other schools waste time and resources on you!!!
Not butt hurt just don't like it.
Not butt hurt just don't like it.
Posted on 1/4/21 at 2:13 pm to js1591
Seems really strange that if a kid wants to transfer, he has to enter the Transfer portal in a formal process.
But, if he signs with a school he could tell them to hold it until a later date (that conceivably could be until he reports to campus in the summer).
Those stances by the NCAA don't square up.
But, if he signs with a school he could tell them to hold it until a later date (that conceivably could be until he reports to campus in the summer).
Those stances by the NCAA don't square up.
Posted on 1/4/21 at 2:18 pm to Laffy Taffy Tiger
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do you have proof this happened?
Confession and documents...
Like the voter fraud...but Joe won right?
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