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Freezer in Garage with a GFCI

Posted on 11/2/22 at 10:24 am
Posted by SEC. 593
Chicago
Member since Aug 2012
4043 posts
Posted on 11/2/22 at 10:24 am
We are about to move into a new house and during the inspection the inspector mentioned something about the GFCI outlets in garage and how much a pain in arse the new code was with having a garage freezer.

With not having any electrical knowledge I looked up the issue and now I'm looking for a solution to avoid tripping and having spoiled food.

We have a 3 outlet circuit with the 1st outlet being the gfci. Could I move the outlet down to the second outlet to keep some protection, but allow me to use the first for my freezer? And is there a danger to doing so?

Obviously the permanent solution is to run a dedicated line from the box, but I only have a few days to get something passable.
Posted by CoachChappy
Member since May 2013
32534 posts
Posted on 11/2/22 at 10:41 am to
Plug it in somewhere else AND get a freezer alarm.
Posted by PistolPete45
Mandeville, LA
Member since Apr 2012
468 posts
Posted on 11/2/22 at 11:16 am to
Two solutions, either a dedicated circuit, or bypass the GFCI protection on one of the downstream outlets from the GFCI.

It's not a matter of if, but when a fridge/freezer trips on a GFCI.

Posted by LSUtigerME
Walker, LA
Member since Oct 2012
3794 posts
Posted on 11/2/22 at 11:36 am to
Everything on that circuit will be on the same GFCI. It’s actually not that big of a deal, you can plug an alarm/light, motion sensor, practically ANYTHING that you’ll recognize when off, into the other outlets on the circuit. That way when it trips, you can immediately tell and you reset the GFCI.

What the inspector is likely alluding to is that DEDICATED circuits be on a GFCI. This is a problem because ONLY the freezer will trip, and you’ll never know unless you open the freezer. Further compounding this issue is that if you use a GFCI outlet, it’s behind the freezer and difficult to reset.

I’d actually argue that running a dedicated circuit for the freezer is more of an issue, particularly if you follow code and do it as a GFCI outlet (vs breaker).
This post was edited on 11/2/22 at 12:08 pm
Posted by LEASTBAY
Member since Aug 2007
14281 posts
Posted on 11/2/22 at 11:46 am to
I have them in my garage. Why is this even necessary? I never looked into it.
Posted by SEC. 593
Chicago
Member since Aug 2012
4043 posts
Posted on 11/2/22 at 12:00 pm to
Thanks all.

Inspector told me it was due to being less used than interior outlets, but he seemed a little crazy so who knows.
Posted by Pauvetibete
Member since Apr 2022
510 posts
Posted on 11/2/22 at 2:36 pm to
Every outlet on the exterior of my house is controlled by ONE GFCI. In 5 years its only tripped a handful of times, but my beer fridge has gotten unreasonably warm during those 5 times. I would do whatever it takes to make sure my freezer would be on a separate circuit.
Posted by GallinagoGallinago
Member since Jul 2020
32 posts
Posted on 11/2/22 at 3:10 pm to
I've been in the same situation - installed a GFCI with an audible alarm. Something like this.

Put it in the outlet closest to my garage door and can easily hear it inside when testing.

Just make sure you get the right amperage for the circuit - 20 or 15.
Posted by armsdealer
Member since Feb 2016
11500 posts
Posted on 11/2/22 at 4:08 pm to
Remove the GFCI... I hate them. They also don't play nice with modern aquarium and pool pumps.
Posted by LSUTIGERTAILG8ER
Chance of Rain....NEVER!!
Member since Nov 2007
1743 posts
Posted on 11/2/22 at 4:37 pm to
pass the inspection.

then.

replace the GFCI with regular receptacle.

then.

plug your freezer in here.
Posted by bapple
Capital City
Member since Oct 2010
11887 posts
Posted on 11/2/22 at 7:37 pm to
quote:

I have them in my garage. Why is this even necessary? I never looked into it.



Any outlet that has the potential to see water will need to be protected by a GFCI according to code. That's why you see them in garages, outdoors, and in kitchens/bathrooms. You run the risk of electricity flowing into water on the floor if there is a wet path to get there. That's what the GFCI protects against.

As to the OP, just replace the breaker in your panel with a GFCI breaker. Then every load downstream of that breaker will be protected by it.

EDIT: Also note that the more a GFCI outlet trips the more sensitive it will get over time. Generally if you just replace the outlet you won't have an issue for a few more years.
This post was edited on 11/2/22 at 7:39 pm
Posted by TubsTiger
Member since Apr 2021
81 posts
Posted on 11/2/22 at 8:48 pm to
quote:

pass the inspection. then. replace the GFCI with regular receptacle. then. plug your freezer in here.


This!
Posted by gerald65
Moss Bluff, LA
Member since Jul 2020
710 posts
Posted on 11/2/22 at 9:26 pm to
quote:

pass the inspection. then. replace the GFCI with regular receptacle. then. plug your freezer in here.


Just wondering..... if you did this and then there was a fire that damaged your home, if the Insurance company found this "violation" of code, what they not pay for fire damage?
Posted by clickboom
Shreveport
Member since Sep 2012
208 posts
Posted on 11/2/22 at 10:11 pm to
GFCI with an audible alarm as previously mentioned is the route I went. Definitely saved me a few times. Lost a few freezers to GFCI trips. No bueno.
Posted by MLU
Member since Feb 2017
1677 posts
Posted on 11/3/22 at 6:23 am to
Put the freezer on a wall where there is an outlet on the opposite side of the wall. Run a new outlet off the back of that outlet and use that one for the freezer, Ideally this would be on a circuit that's not heavily used.
Posted by TeaParty
Member since May 2022
935 posts
Posted on 11/3/22 at 6:30 am to
My non GFI outlet in my garage was installed about 3 foot off the ground.
Posted by skinny domino
sebr
Member since Feb 2007
14335 posts
Posted on 11/3/22 at 6:59 am to
quote:

Remove the GFCI... I hate them. They also don't play nice with modern aquarium and pool pumps.

this, and submerged pool lights.
Posted by notbilly
alter
Member since Sep 2015
4444 posts
Posted on 11/4/22 at 9:26 am to
You can replace it as others suggested. I had the same situation at my last house. I plugged a wifi security camera into the same outlet as my freezer. I set an alarm on it and I got an email if it was ever offline for more than 30 minutes. Only needed it once, but that camera paid for itself that day.
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