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Freezer in Garage with a GFCI
Posted on 11/2/22 at 10:24 am
Posted on 11/2/22 at 10:24 am
We are about to move into a new house and during the inspection the inspector mentioned something about the GFCI outlets in garage and how much a pain in arse the new code was with having a garage freezer.
With not having any electrical knowledge I looked up the issue and now I'm looking for a solution to avoid tripping and having spoiled food.
We have a 3 outlet circuit with the 1st outlet being the gfci. Could I move the outlet down to the second outlet to keep some protection, but allow me to use the first for my freezer? And is there a danger to doing so?
Obviously the permanent solution is to run a dedicated line from the box, but I only have a few days to get something passable.
With not having any electrical knowledge I looked up the issue and now I'm looking for a solution to avoid tripping and having spoiled food.
We have a 3 outlet circuit with the 1st outlet being the gfci. Could I move the outlet down to the second outlet to keep some protection, but allow me to use the first for my freezer? And is there a danger to doing so?
Obviously the permanent solution is to run a dedicated line from the box, but I only have a few days to get something passable.
Posted on 11/2/22 at 10:41 am to SEC. 593
Plug it in somewhere else AND get a freezer alarm.
Posted on 11/2/22 at 11:16 am to SEC. 593
Two solutions, either a dedicated circuit, or bypass the GFCI protection on one of the downstream outlets from the GFCI.
It's not a matter of if, but when a fridge/freezer trips on a GFCI.
It's not a matter of if, but when a fridge/freezer trips on a GFCI.
Posted on 11/2/22 at 11:36 am to SEC. 593
Everything on that circuit will be on the same GFCI. It’s actually not that big of a deal, you can plug an alarm/light, motion sensor, practically ANYTHING that you’ll recognize when off, into the other outlets on the circuit. That way when it trips, you can immediately tell and you reset the GFCI.
What the inspector is likely alluding to is that DEDICATED circuits be on a GFCI. This is a problem because ONLY the freezer will trip, and you’ll never know unless you open the freezer. Further compounding this issue is that if you use a GFCI outlet, it’s behind the freezer and difficult to reset.
I’d actually argue that running a dedicated circuit for the freezer is more of an issue, particularly if you follow code and do it as a GFCI outlet (vs breaker).
What the inspector is likely alluding to is that DEDICATED circuits be on a GFCI. This is a problem because ONLY the freezer will trip, and you’ll never know unless you open the freezer. Further compounding this issue is that if you use a GFCI outlet, it’s behind the freezer and difficult to reset.
I’d actually argue that running a dedicated circuit for the freezer is more of an issue, particularly if you follow code and do it as a GFCI outlet (vs breaker).
This post was edited on 11/2/22 at 12:08 pm
Posted on 11/2/22 at 11:46 am to SEC. 593
I have them in my garage. Why is this even necessary? I never looked into it.
Posted on 11/2/22 at 12:00 pm to LEASTBAY
Thanks all.
Inspector told me it was due to being less used than interior outlets, but he seemed a little crazy so who knows.
Inspector told me it was due to being less used than interior outlets, but he seemed a little crazy so who knows.
Posted on 11/2/22 at 2:36 pm to SEC. 593
Every outlet on the exterior of my house is controlled by ONE GFCI. In 5 years its only tripped a handful of times, but my beer fridge has gotten unreasonably warm during those 5 times. I would do whatever it takes to make sure my freezer would be on a separate circuit.
Posted on 11/2/22 at 4:08 pm to SEC. 593
Remove the GFCI... I hate them. They also don't play nice with modern aquarium and pool pumps.
Posted on 11/2/22 at 4:37 pm to SEC. 593
pass the inspection.
then.
replace the GFCI with regular receptacle.
then.
plug your freezer in here.
then.
replace the GFCI with regular receptacle.
then.
plug your freezer in here.
Posted on 11/2/22 at 7:37 pm to LEASTBAY
quote:
I have them in my garage. Why is this even necessary? I never looked into it.
Any outlet that has the potential to see water will need to be protected by a GFCI according to code. That's why you see them in garages, outdoors, and in kitchens/bathrooms. You run the risk of electricity flowing into water on the floor if there is a wet path to get there. That's what the GFCI protects against.
As to the OP, just replace the breaker in your panel with a GFCI breaker. Then every load downstream of that breaker will be protected by it.
EDIT: Also note that the more a GFCI outlet trips the more sensitive it will get over time. Generally if you just replace the outlet you won't have an issue for a few more years.
This post was edited on 11/2/22 at 7:39 pm
Posted on 11/2/22 at 8:48 pm to LSUTIGERTAILG8ER
quote:
pass the inspection. then. replace the GFCI with regular receptacle. then. plug your freezer in here.
This!
Posted on 11/2/22 at 9:26 pm to TubsTiger
quote:
pass the inspection. then. replace the GFCI with regular receptacle. then. plug your freezer in here.
Just wondering..... if you did this and then there was a fire that damaged your home, if the Insurance company found this "violation" of code, what they not pay for fire damage?
Posted on 11/2/22 at 10:11 pm to SEC. 593
GFCI with an audible alarm as previously mentioned is the route I went. Definitely saved me a few times. Lost a few freezers to GFCI trips. No bueno.
Posted on 11/3/22 at 6:23 am to SEC. 593
Put the freezer on a wall where there is an outlet on the opposite side of the wall. Run a new outlet off the back of that outlet and use that one for the freezer, Ideally this would be on a circuit that's not heavily used.
Posted on 11/3/22 at 6:30 am to MLU
My non GFI outlet in my garage was installed about 3 foot off the ground.
Posted on 11/3/22 at 6:59 am to armsdealer
quote:this, and submerged pool lights.
Remove the GFCI... I hate them. They also don't play nice with modern aquarium and pool pumps.
Posted on 11/4/22 at 9:26 am to SEC. 593
You can replace it as others suggested. I had the same situation at my last house. I plugged a wifi security camera into the same outlet as my freezer. I set an alarm on it and I got an email if it was ever offline for more than 30 minutes. Only needed it once, but that camera paid for itself that day.
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