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Your view of creatine for high school athlete

Posted on 5/21/22 at 9:42 pm
Posted by Turf Taint
New Orleans
Member since Jun 2021
6010 posts
Posted on 5/21/22 at 9:42 pm
Risks…

Hydration

Kidneys

Etc

Talk to me…
Posted by Mingo Was His NameO
Brooklyn
Member since Mar 2016
37536 posts
Posted on 5/21/22 at 9:46 pm to
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Risks…


None
Posted by SaintTiger80
Member since Feb 2020
571 posts
Posted on 5/21/22 at 10:36 pm to
Creatine mono hydrate is not bad at all.. benefits in muscle recovery and strength gains. No real risks other than making sure you are staying hydrated. But really just drink a glass of water every time you’re thirsty.

Now, some “creatines” come packed with caffeine’s and other stimulants to get you jacked for a workout. Some people look for that, but high doses of caffeine may not be the best for your health. I just take a 5mg scoop of creatine mono hydrate once a day.

Obviously, it’s not going to replace a good diet. It’s not some magic wand. It’s still just a supplement to a appropriate diet and lifting plan for whatever your goals are.
Posted by lsu777
Lake Charles
Member since Jan 2004
38076 posts
Posted on 5/21/22 at 10:38 pm to
Most researched supplement in history. Literally zero risks, absolutely none.

Tons of benefits from muscles and also in memory.

Should be taken by essentially any and everyone.

I say all that and most of the time am too lazy to take myself

But for hs athlete, absolutely should be taken.
Posted by hogfly
Fayetteville, AR
Member since May 2014
5237 posts
Posted on 5/21/22 at 11:19 pm to
Have a 14 year old athlete (mountain biker) who has recently started Creatine. His mom was very hesitant, so I have done a shite ton of research.

No issues whatsoever other than potential dehydration. That being said, everyone should be hydrating at the levels suggested for Creatine.

Importantly for me, because TBI and concussions are a very real issue with the type of riding he does, is that there
Is some great research coming out on the positive preventative effects of Creatine on concussion issues.
Posted by bakersman
Shreveport
Member since Apr 2011
6020 posts
Posted on 5/22/22 at 9:58 am to
Is it a banned substance for LHSAA? It was back in my day but that was 20+years ago
Posted by lsu777
Lake Charles
Member since Jan 2004
38076 posts
Posted on 5/22/22 at 10:45 am to
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Is it a banned substance for LHSAA? It was back in my day but that was 20+years ago


No it wasn't lol. Saying they oppose the use of supplements does not mean it is banned. And their is no ped testing by lhsaa at all.
Posted by ronricks
Member since Mar 2021
12219 posts
Posted on 5/22/22 at 11:52 am to
No risks. Make sure to use creatine HCL version.
Posted by lsu777
Lake Charles
Member since Jan 2004
38076 posts
Posted on 5/23/22 at 7:33 am to
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Make sure to use creatine HCL version.


why? monohydrate is the one that is most researched and proven to work.
Posted by ronricks
Member since Mar 2021
12219 posts
Posted on 5/23/22 at 7:49 am to
Lower dose is needed of HCL version. No bloat as well. Absorption is better. It absolutely has advantages over Creatine Monohydrate even if the results are the same.
This post was edited on 5/23/22 at 8:03 am
Posted by lsu777
Lake Charles
Member since Jan 2004
38076 posts
Posted on 5/23/22 at 9:18 am to
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Lower dose is needed of HCL version. No bloat as well. Absorption is better. It absolutely has advantages over Creatine Monohydrate even if the results are the same.


got any studies that back this up? being serious
Posted by ThreauxDown
Member since Jan 2019
648 posts
Posted on 5/23/22 at 1:32 pm to
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Lower dose is needed of HCL version. No bloat as well. Absorption is better. It absolutely has advantages over Creatine Monohydrate even if the results are the same


I think this is mostly hypothetical. I’ve tried both and didn’t notice a difference.

But like 777 said if you can link a study that would be great because I’d consider trying HCL again
Posted by BilbeauTBaggins
Member since May 2021
7669 posts
Posted on 5/23/22 at 1:41 pm to
Depends on what the athlete is trying to accomplish, but overall is still beneficial for daily consumption. Athletes that benefit from muscle mass and sprint type work will benefit more. Just drink A LOT more water.
Posted by Hot Carl
Prayers up for 3
Member since Dec 2005
62719 posts
Posted on 5/23/22 at 6:00 pm to
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got any studies that back this up? being serious


I take HCL too. I did a ton of research on the different kinds about a year ago and came to the conclusion it was either “better” or maybe that the less bloating was “better” for me. I honestly don’t remember all the reasons and have long since closed the browser windows to every article I read. I’d be interested to see the studies too to make sure it still makes sense for me, but my 13-year-old has started lifting too, so for him as well. I think most “experts” concluded that the benefits probably weren’t enough to justify the higher cost for most people and to just go with mono. But there may have been more research done since then that has changed stances.
Posted by ehidal1
Chief Boot Knocka
Member since Dec 2007
37335 posts
Posted on 5/24/22 at 10:12 pm to
Are y’all taking powder or caplets? I haven’t taken it in a while and it used to be only powder. Any thoughts between the 2? And recommend brand?
Posted by LSUfan20005
Member since Sep 2012
9227 posts
Posted on 5/25/22 at 7:00 am to
Random advice that really helped me…

When I first started creatine, it gave me some bloating and a bit of diarrhea. I read a random recommendation from one of the early proponents that said to blend it with HOT water.

I started mixing the creatine in about 3oz of hot water to mix it, then added that to an electrolyte beverage and never had an issue again
Posted by Oates Mustache
Member since Oct 2011
26630 posts
Posted on 5/25/22 at 3:42 pm to
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Lower dose is needed of HCL version. No bloat as well. Absorption is better. It absolutely has advantages over Creatine Monohydrate even if the results are the same.


Well shite, I didn't see this before I started my thread. I'm interested in learning more.
Posted by Turf Taint
New Orleans
Member since Jun 2021
6010 posts
Posted on 5/25/22 at 7:23 pm to
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No issues whatsoever other than potential dehydration


More than one certified trainer has advised me to proceed with caution with Creatine BECAUSE of dehydration


Why?
Tight controls are required to ensure deep hydration and mitigate dehydration risk. In particular, teenagers are not regimented with water intake. Dehydration is no joke to one's health.

Why have posters not mention the following?
Dehydration conditions and factors under normal athletic conditions, without creatine -- matters; then add creatine -- matters!

Athlete's propensity for dehydration in non-athletic circumstances, without creatine -- matters


Posted by Maytheporkbewithyou
Member since Aug 2016
14157 posts
Posted on 5/25/22 at 9:15 pm to
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Why have posters not mention the following?
Dehydration conditions and factors under normal athletic conditions, without creatine -- matters; then add creatine -- matters!


Uhm, it looked like just about everybody warned about dehydration. They're just all saying that's the only real concern.
Posted by Maytheporkbewithyou
Member since Aug 2016
14157 posts
Posted on 5/25/22 at 9:18 pm to
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monohydrate is the one that is most researched and proven to work.


I remember when monohydrate hit the market in the early 90's. Back then, you were supposed to cycle on and off and we all mixed it with grape juice to try and mimic an insulin spike. Hahaha...good times.
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