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What should I be looking for when eating healthy?

Posted on 4/4/23 at 4:26 pm
Posted by A Menace to Sobriety
Member since Jun 2018
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Posted on 4/4/23 at 4:26 pm
So I decided not to be a lazy POS and started working out again. I'm not obese or anything, but I most definitely want to try and lose like 20-30 pounds. I am 5'11", 215 pounds currently.

Working out often was never a big deal for me but I also had like shite. It's honestly mostly because I don't even know how to eat/drink healthy. When it comes to diets, I don't know what to even look for. Is it more important to eat less carbs? Less sugar? Less sodium? More protein?

For the people on here that have lost weight or know how to, what kind of diet plans or meals should I using?

Any advice is appreciated.

Also has anyone ever had experience with previous weight loss plans like Atkins/Nutrisystem/Weight Watchers/Etc. and if so, would you even recommend those?
This post was edited on 4/4/23 at 4:29 pm
Posted by Salmon
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Posted on 4/4/23 at 4:39 pm to
I would download a coaching diet app like MacroFactor or Carbon. These will help you with setting calorie and macro goals, as well as track progress.

From there, track your calories to ensure deficit and prioritize protein.

Watch the weight fall off.
This post was edited on 4/4/23 at 4:39 pm
Posted by FieldEngineer
Member since Jan 2015
2983 posts
Posted on 4/4/23 at 4:53 pm to
quote:

For the people on here that have lost weight or know how to, what kind of diet plans or meals should I using? Any advice is appreciated.


Keto worked for me, but I did it dirty and I think my sodium intake was way too high.

Now I just eyeball my calories. Eat a consistent 500 calorie lunch, then a moderate portion of a home cooked meal most nights. No snacking, unless it’s unsalted cashews, fresh fruit, or a salad.
Posted by vistajay
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 4/4/23 at 5:14 pm to
Depends what works for you. I don't have much sugar anyway and counting calories can be work and depressing. So WW point system and taking a break from alcohol while exercising more worked wonders.
Posted by Yeti_Chaser
Member since Nov 2017
12919 posts
Posted on 4/4/23 at 6:29 pm to
Prioritize protein. Don't eat anything with a paragraph of ingredients. Drink a shite load of water. Get good sleep. Lift weights. Cook at home and meal prep and proportion it out ahead of time. Limit alcohol. Take some walks throughout the day.

Ideally you'll track all your food in an app like my fitness pal and eat in a deficit. But if that's too much of a commitment just follow the advice above.
Posted by TideSaint
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Posted on 4/4/23 at 7:26 pm to
quote:

A Menace to Sobriety


I think I see the issue.
Posted by Mo Jeaux
Member since Aug 2008
63642 posts
Posted on 4/5/23 at 6:36 am to
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I'm not obese or anything


quote:

I am 5'11", 215 pounds currently.



You’re obese.
Posted by slinger1317
Northshore
Member since Sep 2005
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Posted on 4/5/23 at 6:53 am to
I went from 260 to 185 without following a plan. Just eat less, and you've got to be committed. Skip breakfast, no late night snacking, reduce alcohol consumption, etc.

Now I'm at 195 trying to get back to 185. I track everything in MyFitness Pal. Once you have most of your foods loaded in the app it isn't that much work. I try to keep carbs around 100, and protein around 1 g per bodyweight. I lift 3-4 days a week with little cardio.
Posted by boxcarbarney
Above all things, be a man
Member since Jul 2007
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Posted on 4/5/23 at 8:31 am to
Easiest way: Only purchase and consume foods on the perimeter of the grocery store: veggies, fruits, meat, some dairy. Healthy food is perishable.

Slightly harder way: get an app and track calories and macros.
Posted by pwejr88
Red Stick
Member since Apr 2007
37875 posts
Posted on 4/5/23 at 8:44 am to
I lost 42 pounds when I started my journey after failing many times before to lose weight.
What worked for me:

-Start simple or I would quit and simple for me was:
-Stop drinking calories. Coke zeros and the like are fine.
-stop eating sugar. Sugar in good foods is fine but I stopped with the candy, cookies, ice cream, etc. (foods with added sugar)

The above helped me get 5-10 lbs off rather quickly but I was eating and drinking like a teenage boy.

Once I got committed:

-track how much I’m eating with an app (I use Mike’s Macros)
-find out my maintenance calories (TDEE calculator online) and make sure I’m eating less than I’m burning (a deficit)
-Fairlife protein shakes (Sam’s or Amazon). These help with late night cravings and hitting macro goals. I was drinking at least 3 a day. They come in 30g or 42g.
-Bluetooth scale off Amazon. Wrote on my bathroom mirror with a dry erase marker my daily weight. Weighed in morning first thing after I peed.

Do this and the weight will start falling off. If you get impatient you can hop on a treadmill or go outside and jog/walk/jog/walk 2 miles a day and the weight will fall off faster than you can realize.
This post was edited on 4/5/23 at 8:52 am
Posted by TigerInCbus
Raymond
Member since Feb 2018
361 posts
Posted on 4/5/23 at 11:00 am to
quote:

For the people on here that have lost weight or know how to, what kind of diet plans or meals should I using?


I'll give you my opinion, but at the end of that day it's going to be trial and error on your part to see what works best for your lifestyle.

I would recommend you have a protein-rich breakfast every day. I notice a difference on the days when I have a big, healthy breakfast vs days when I wait until 1-2pm to eat. My breakfasts vary based on my goals, but right now I am eating: 3 whole egg, 200g egg whites, diced ham omelette with fruit and greek yogurt. That's roughly 600 calories or so with 50-60g protein. If I am doing a lot of training that day (run + lift) I would add some oatmeal or something.

For lunch, I eat another protein-rich meal:
50-60g rice, 4oz lean ground beef, 2 eggs, veggies. Roughly 600 calories again, 40-45g protein.

Dinner is high-protein again, usually in the form of chicken or chicken thighs. I just eat as much protein as I want at dinner, along with something like sweet potatoes and veggies. Might throw an egg or two on top also. Again - high protein meal.

I do have a snack but - you guessed it- high protein. Big bowl of whole milk greek yogurt and fruit with some Catalina Crunch on top.

Losing weight, or 'dieting' as you're calling it, does not need to be complicated. Eat whole foods, eat as much fruit and veggies as you want, keep your fat intake in check (use lean meats for the majority of your meals), keep your protein intake high to reduce your overall hunger levels, and you're going to have a hard time being overweight. I would not recommend you get too in the weeds of tracking calories so much as focusing on better food selection.

You should also be prioritizing strength training to build muscle throughout this process. If you haven't been training for a while, and you eat whole foods with high protein, your body is going to transform pretty quickly.
Posted by RocketTiger
Member since Mar 2014
1220 posts
Posted on 4/5/23 at 11:06 am to
Eat as close to nature as possible. I suggest an animal/fruit based diet. Prioritize protein. Cut out all the bad oils.

If you are lifting you will need the calories, so be careful with how much you cut. You don't need to be in a huge calorie deficit to see results. Stay away from diet plans that you listed.
Posted by RocketTiger
Member since Mar 2014
1220 posts
Posted on 4/5/23 at 11:07 am to
Oh, and stop drinking alcohol. It's a gamechanger in all areas of your life.

Get 7-8 hours of sleep.
Posted by caro81
Member since Jul 2017
6340 posts
Posted on 4/5/23 at 1:22 pm to
quote:

pwejr88


All solid advice i was going to post so no need to now.

instead i will hit something no one else has yet.

Learn basic nutrition. Do you know what a BMR is? Do you know what your BMR is? There are plenty of easy calculators online. in general, most men are around 1900 calories a day. That's what you need to be caloric neutral if in a complete vegetative state. Your general lifestyle will determine what you burn on top of that. Mostly sedentary office work? then its not much more than that 1900 and use that or 2000 to make it easy as baseline. A lot of people "diet" and dont even know what their caloric intake should be. For weight loss, most people would recommend 1 lb a week for a healthy, good achievable goal. That's roughly a 3000 calories deficit a week.

From there learn how to accurately calculate calories from your intake. The only way to consistently do this is to measure foods and learn what their calories are per given weight. This sounds harder than it really is, and becomes second nature after awhile. Outside of that, paying attention to packaged foods nutritional labels helps a ton. Lets be honest, not every single thing you eat is going to be completely fresh and home made. that's fine. so use the labels. Try to avoid too much packaged food though because...

quote:

Is it more important to eat less carbs? Less sugar? Less sodium? More protein?


yes. and packaged foods tend to be much higher in all those things you don't want. Cutting simple sugars and fats goes ALONG way for most people. Less salt will also make you in general feel better. This is a tough thing for some folks, especially for the first few weeks. Simple sugars and fats release dopamine. Our body wants us to know these are GOOD things because from a survival standpoint, its a high calorie source. What our biology doesn't know is that there will never be a shortage of those high fat high sugar food sources because of modern times. Hence, with the dopamine release, people essentially are addicted to junk food. If its a big part of your diet, you need to kick the addiction, literally.

Now dont be afraid to be a human being, have a actually enjoyable snack or small meal now and then. its ok. Just dont fall into modern media's idea of cheat meals. I F'ing hate it when i see a magazine cover or online article and they talk about "The Rocks Cheat meal!!!!" and talk about him eating 2 pizzas or some stupid shite.
1.You arent The rock. You probably weren't blessed of god tier genetics and are juicing out of the arse with a personal team to support you.
2. Even with all that, im call BS on some of those cheat meals. It's a publicity stunt. Keep your cheats modest. Couple slices of pizzas, not the whole pizzeria.

And of course....if thats all too much. Just eat less.
Posted by Proximo
Member since Aug 2011
24139 posts
Posted on 4/5/23 at 1:26 pm to
Food scale
Food scale
Cut out all sugar
Document every single piece of food that goes down your gullet
Posted by bamaguy17
Member since Jul 2022
1282 posts
Posted on 4/5/23 at 1:36 pm to
quote:

Document every single piece of food before it goes down your gullet
Posted by pwejr88
Red Stick
Member since Apr 2007
37875 posts
Posted on 4/5/23 at 1:59 pm to
I’ll add also:

When I first started I needed a cheat DAY.. not meal.

Over time it became a meal but having a cheat day with no rules whatsoever helped me stay on the wagon.
Posted by TigerInCbus
Raymond
Member since Feb 2018
361 posts
Posted on 4/5/23 at 2:17 pm to
I am going to be a Devil's Advocate here and challenge OP to NOT track macros. I think tht he can make really good strides by focusing on only eating whole foods, and when feeling 'snacky' going for fruit or a high-protein meal like a greek yogurt.

I track my food, and I hate that I do. I am actively working to remove that from my life.
Posted by Salmon
I helped draft the email
Member since Feb 2008
86177 posts
Posted on 4/5/23 at 2:20 pm to
quote:

I am going to be a Devil's Advocate here and challenge OP to NOT track macros. I think tht he can make really good strides by focusing on only eating whole foods, and when feeling 'snacky' going for fruit or a high-protein meal like a greek yogurt.

I track my food, and I hate that I do. I am actively working to remove that from my life.


For someone like the OP who is admittedly clueless on how to eat healthy, tracking macros for an amount of time to at least get an understanding about which foods are high in protein, which foods are more calorie dense, etc is very important IMO

Once he does it for awhile and gets a better understanding, I agree, you can be less strict on tracking macros, unless he wants to get into body composition.

I never tracked food in my life before this year. Never felt the need to since I've never been overweight. I had always assumed that I was eating enough protein though. I was incredibly wrong. I was eating about half the amount of protein that I assumed I was eating.

Tracking macros these past few months has been quite eye opening to me.
This post was edited on 4/5/23 at 2:22 pm
Posted by TigerInCbus
Raymond
Member since Feb 2018
361 posts
Posted on 4/5/23 at 2:23 pm to
Yeah, I don't disagree that there is value. I guess I would just go with lifestyle changes first and then use macro tracking as another tool to bust out later.
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