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re: Time to choose a side 8n the only debate that matters...not Rep/Dem or MJ/LeBron

Posted on 5/8/18 at 12:00 pm to
Posted by CptBengal
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Posted on 5/8/18 at 12:00 pm to
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His loss.
Nope, I don't follow my own advice.



then why did you foster it out here?
Posted by AlxTgr
Kyre Banorg
Member since Oct 2003
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Posted on 5/8/18 at 12:27 pm to
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then why did you foster it out here?
Because it's what I believe and is responsive to your OP.
Posted by Rep520
Member since Mar 2018
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Posted on 5/8/18 at 12:28 pm to
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Man, where did this come from? 


I have a PhD, Player Hater Degree.
Posted by lsu777
Lake Charles
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 5/8/18 at 12:35 pm to
Why do you believe it? I ask because if you want to possibly change your view you should look into mark rippetoe's success stories with training older(55+) trainees and the difference it has made in their lives.

Honestly deadlift is not a dangerous exercise at all, just requires proper form. Same goes for bench and more people are injured doing bench and have shoulder problems than get hurt deadlifting or squatting.

Now to answer the OPs question I think deadlift is the better of the two exercises, as I think sissy squats are a better quad builder.

But I would not say either exercise is the best. To me heavy sandbag presses and carries are the best followed closely by some type of vertical pull.
Posted by AlxTgr
Kyre Banorg
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Posted on 5/8/18 at 12:35 pm to
Posted by Mo Jeaux
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Posted on 5/8/18 at 1:16 pm to
Squats. Dead lifts give me hemorrhoids.
Posted by AlxTgr
Kyre Banorg
Member since Oct 2003
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Posted on 5/8/18 at 1:43 pm to
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just requires proper form
It's from seeing so many with poor form.
Posted by Jim Rockford
Member since May 2011
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Posted on 5/8/18 at 2:05 pm to
Squat because ROM
Posted by CptBengal
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Posted on 5/8/18 at 2:16 pm to
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It's from seeing so many with poor form.




I feel bad for many of them.

But thats not the deadlift's fault.
Posted by AlxTgr
Kyre Banorg
Member since Oct 2003
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Posted on 5/8/18 at 2:46 pm to
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But thats not the deadlift's fault.

Of course it is. No other lift or movement is done so poorly so often with that much weight.
Posted by CptBengal
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Posted on 5/8/18 at 3:02 pm to
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Of course it is. No other lift or movement is done so poorly so often with that much weight.




so youre saying deadlifts are out there, snatching up randos and making them lift with a rounded back and too much weight?

Posted by LSUPERMAN
Louisiana
Member since Aug 2007
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Posted on 5/8/18 at 3:06 pm to

tricksy little deadliftists
Posted by Rep520
Member since Mar 2018
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Posted on 5/8/18 at 3:10 pm to
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Of course it is. No other lift or movement is done so poorly so often with that much weight.



You seen squat depth at most gyms?

Posted by Adam4848
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Member since Apr 2006
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Posted on 5/8/18 at 3:30 pm to
I've always hated squat and loved the deadlift so deadlift.

I always see people load way too much and squat 1/4 ROM where as deadlifting it's harder to cheat.
This post was edited on 5/8/18 at 3:31 pm
Posted by AlxTgr
Kyre Banorg
Member since Oct 2003
87406 posts
Posted on 5/8/18 at 3:39 pm to
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You seen squat depth at most gyms?
Wait, going less deep is dangerous?
Posted by marchballer
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Posted on 5/8/18 at 3:42 pm to
Deadlift.

Squats get my legs strong as hell but I feel like everything comes together when I deadlift.
Posted by marchballer
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Member since Aug 2008
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Posted on 5/8/18 at 3:46 pm to
Watch people do Lat Pull downs at the gym. Or watch people use the Smith Machine. I see both done worse than incorrect deadlifts.
Posted by JamesLang
Member since Mar 2018
388 posts
Posted on 5/8/18 at 3:46 pm to
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Wait, going less deep is dangerous?


Yes. When "Captain Gloves/Belt/PussyPad" loads up 300lbs for a quarter-squat on the bar, when his back and core are nowhere near strong enough to actually support it and do a real squat, that is the guy that hurts himself.
Posted by Rep520
Member since Mar 2018
10476 posts
Posted on 5/8/18 at 3:52 pm to
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Wait, going less deep is dangerous? 


I'm never sure if this is serious, so apologies if I take it seriously and it was a joke.

Less deep squats enhance patellar issues and back issues. Plus, if you squat to full depth, you can't miss low. If you have a shallow squat and misjudge and go too deep, you won't have the power to get out of the hole. That's a one way ticket on an elevator that only runs to the basement.
Posted by lsu777
Lake Charles
Member since Jan 2004
38069 posts
Posted on 5/8/18 at 4:04 pm to
thats funny cause bench press causes way more injuries than the deadlift. How come people don't say not to bench past age 25?
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