re: r/zerocarb sort of infuriates me

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Who is trying to get you to join a "cult"? Hasn't Tex admitted that he's not zero carb?

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It's like they are hellbent on misconstruing things I have been very clear about.

To restate:

I have never even attempted to measure a ketone in my body.

I don't eat zero carb - I eat low carb with a tilt to protein.

I think the most "controversial" claim I make in their eyes is that carbs are bad for you. This just is true. Thus, my position is that, yes, I do ingest some carbs...I just don't kid myself into thinking they're good for me.

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When it comes to nutrition science, epidemiological studies (at least as actually conducted by practitioners) have effectively proven to be entirely worthless. This recent "low carb diet will kill you" atrocity published in JAMA is a perfect case in point. It is essentially not even science.

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sounds similar to all carbs are bad huh

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sounds similar to all carbs are bad huh

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No, not really.

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Also, that much red meat seems like a fast track to pancreatic cancer

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For thousands of years, red meat was essentially "the meat" available to humans. Yet we survived and advanced...we didn't all die of cancer.

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Go peruse the Carnivore Diet thread. Junky is hackneyed in his responses and didn’t once address any of the sources I posted. He’s under the impression that humans should only eat meat and that plant foods are unnatural for human consumption.

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I can't take an out and out false statement. We had a nice exchange in that thread.

People get damn defensive when I make statements about relative risks and describe how some study is just bad science. Those meat = cancer studies, RR's of 1.17 for fresh and 1.18 for processed meat. Get back to me when the RR gets to 2 (some academia outside of nutrition want RR of 3<) and then I'll start reading more into it, because that is when we should really begin looking at the link in depth.

People also get defensive when I make the statement "you don't need carbs" as if I need to be shut down as some sort of heretic. I haven't seen any evidence to the contrary. Just because someone doesn't like that approach doesn't mean that the statement isn't correct. It will be correct until someone dies because they didn't eat enough kale. please...


I hope my grammar irritates Mingo like a paper-cut

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And didn't eat a lb of red meat, or anything for that matter, daily.

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wut

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Using thousands of years ago humans is the dumbest thing. Only in the last couple of years has food become readily available and consumed daily.

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Why is it dumb? What major physiological evolutions are you claiming have happened in the recent past which render your body's metabolic realities moot?

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That's not what I said, but by your 3rd grade level writing style I don't expect you to understand that.

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3rd grade writing style? Really have you read any of my longer post? GTFO of here with that BS

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That's also not what I said. What I said is you and others speaking in absolutes is irresponsible. It's like saying the theory of relativity is an absolute fact. We do not know that, but the latest science suggests that it is true at this time. That's the point, the science points to what much of you say, but we don't know for certain if it is true, and people come to this board uneducated and looking for advice, and you put things into the wrong context and terms.

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I understood what you were saying, it's still stupid. There is zero evidence.

That's like staying the world is flat despite all the evidence says it's not.


And for the record just to clear things up, I am not a keto tard. I think it's fricking stupid to run keto outside of three reasons

1) health reasons ie to correct something like cholesterol or blood sugar levels or allergies

2) easy complaince for weightloss. Some people can easily stick to this kind of diet. I am one but I over at on it so I choose to do different things.

3) if doing 2 to 3 day fast with two day break for fatloss. This helps keep you in fat burning mode when you go back to the fast.

Also other then that true keto is dumb and makes you a weak arse bitch in many cases, not everyone but for many.

For most gym guys looking for body comp, performance and health 100-125 carbs ingested around the workout is going to be optimal. It gives enough carbs for performance yet allows you to eat 60% protein and enough fat with that protein to not make it miserable. And for most this is going to control blood sugar and if it's quality carbs and you balance Omega 3 vs 6, well it's going to help all health markers and allow you to be healthy enough.

I am a iifym, leangains guy. The right kind of keto diet though is the healthiest based on the latest science. It doesn't help you lose weight faster though.

You do realize I'm trying on my phone using swipe right? I have apologized 100 times on this board for auto correct and spelling errors. I'm not gonna go back and fix every one of them. And yes I know the difference, I am not an uneducated jackass. Quite the opposite.

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Pathetic

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I agree, understanding homophone comprehension is important.

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Of all the lazy spots for you to have arrived, criticizing this specific poster for auto-correct mistakes. Get back to us when you are able to make a post (and with copious supporting evidence) even 1/10 the quality. Seriously, GTFO of here with this stupid shite and take it back to the OT. People are trying to have productive conversations on this board.

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Why are your panties in such a wad? Did you eat a carb yesterday?