Plant based diet

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I am open to try this from some arthritis I have. Keto/Paleo didn't work as well, and my Cholestrol spiked.

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Umm...this will flare your arthritis more than anything known to man. You will start feeling like absolute shite due to the insane amount of oxalic acid you will be consuming. Your bone and muscle health will decline. Your going to have zero energy with your insulin spiking like an absolute madman. The legumes you digest will increase your arthritis.

Moral of the story a “plant based diet” is a terrible idea.

Also the big bad bogey man (cholesterol) that the government and pharmaceutical companies are using to shove pills down your throat isn’t a bad thing as long as you are updated on modern science.

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Moral of the story a “plant based diet” is a terrible idea.

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No it isn't. I eat plenty of meat so I'm not for one or the other. Every person is different and many people feel great going plants only and are healthier than ever. People who do keto, same thing, depends on the person. I tried keto for 1 month and felt like shite the whole time. I go 2 days on plant only diets and feel like a superhero.

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Also the big bad bogey man (cholesterol) that the government and pharmaceutical companies are using to shove pills down your throat isn’t a bad thing as long as you are updated on modern science.

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There is no big bad gov't shoving pills down your throat. Every single doctor I know of tries to keep from starting people on cholesterol medicine. This is not only a gay statement you made, it's bogus. Just b/c posters on here get a bunch of thumbs up and post youtube videos or "follow" some guy on Instagram who "seems" smart doesn't always make it a good idea.

OP, keep your cholesterol in check, don't just say frick it on keeping it down b/c some hip folks on here go all teenage girl mad arguing against it. There's decades of research and new research that discuss the importance of keeping cholesterol in check, IT'S SCIENCE!!!!(As they keto folks would say). Just b/c a random tribe somewhere 2,000 years ago may or may not have eaten meat only doesn't mean it's a good idea. For every one of those tribes there were 100s or 1,000s of other tribes and ancient people eating mostly plants. In more recent times, 19th century, people actually ate much less meat than what we today would think they ate. Be smart and do what makes you feel better whether it's plants only, keto, or meats and plants and other stuff in moderation. Keep check on cholesterol while trying different things out and see how they make you feel.

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I tried keto for 1 month and felt like shite the whole time.

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You didn’t intake the correct amount of electrolytes I guarantee it. Also what was the deficit you placed yourself in?

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OP, keep your cholesterol in check, don't just say frick it on keeping it down b/c some hip folks on here go all teenage girl mad arguing against it. There's decades of research and new research that discuss the importance of keeping cholesterol in check, IT'S SCIENCE!!!!

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No just no. Cholesterol is not something to be feared as you would make it out to be. Cholesterol is an extremely vague term. Are we taking HDL, LDL, IDL, VLDL, or triglycerides? Most Dr’s don’t even check for VLDL or IDL levels they either simply “estimate” it or act as if it doesn’t exist!

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Just b/c a random tribe somewhere 2,000 years ago may or may not have eaten meat only doesn't mean it's a good idea. For every one of those tribes there were 100s or 1,000s of other tribes and ancient people eating mostly plants.

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We evolved to eat meat. Link me on these 1000’s of plant only tribes please. Humans only ate other “trash” when they couldn’t hunt and kill an animal.

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Salmon

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Triggered Soyboy alert!

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Just b/c a random tribe somewhere 2,000 years ago may or may not have eaten meat only doesn't mean it's a good idea. For every one of those tribes there were 100s or 1,000s of other tribes and ancient people eating mostly plants. In more recent times, 19th century, people actually ate much less meat than what we today would think they ate. Be smart and do what makes you feel better whether it's plants only, keto, or meats and plants and other stuff in moderation. Keep check on cholesterol while trying different things out and see how they make you feel.

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So much bullshite.

Paleo works for me but I get that everyone is different. I would advise you to take some B vitamin supplements with methylated B12 when going completely vegan. Thorne has a great product. Also, take some Omega 3 fish oils from a brand that’s third party tested. I believe labdoor provides a rating scale based on four different metrics if you want to search for one. If you can add some eggs and fish every now and again, that’s just a bonus, but I get if you want to try no meat/fish/animal products at all. My contribution - my wife and I love spaghetti squash baked on 425 for 45 minutes face down after being cut in half and de-seeded. We use store bought organic spaghetti sauce with no sugar added for convenience. It is excellent for an easy quick meal. Good luck!

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So much bull shite.

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No it isn’t

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You're like some new wave feminist pointing to one small matriarchal tribe and extrapolating that to saying that matriarchal societies are just as common as patriarchal societies

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To be so wrong on a subject matter you sure sound overly confident. Problem is, you are very wrong. I’ve been through this debate 1,000 times on here. I’m not getting into it again with someone that obviously doesn’t know anything. Go read my old posts.

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windshieldman

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Your entire arguement is just don't believe everything you read on the internet. It's pretty clear there are a handful of posters here that are very knowledgeable on this stuff and do their homework and bring that in their posts. All of the new science would point to a plant based diet not being good for inflammation and that cholesterol is pretty misunderstood by the masses. You've brought nothing to disprove that other than "don't believe this guy on the internet, believe me on the internet"