re: Inching closer to meat-only...

quote:

---

I am glad this rustled your feathers.

---

The meaning of rustling someone’s feathers must be different between us also. Nothing in my post came across as me being rustled, upset, or anything close to either.

quote:

---

The meaning of rustling someone’s feathers must be different between us also. Nothing in my post came across as me being rustled, upset, or anything close to either.

---

The only people that get their feathers rustled here are the ones that tell you their way of eating is the right way. If you tell them that their way is fine for them, but you do something different they will tell you and doctors are idiots and that YOU are the one that's upset.

The fact is we as humans still don't know the optimal diet. The plethora of different diet styles, both "fad" and legit tells you that. I cannot comprehend how some people read Reddit and think they know what's right as far as health and diet are concerned for everyone when there are doctors/researchers all over the world that spend their entire life studying this stuff for a living and find inconclusive evidence and results.

quote:

---

Whaaaa? That much red meat will give you a heart attack.

I've cut out ALL red meats. Chicken, turkey, fish/seafood, with plenty of low-startchy greens and fiber (with vegetables or rice protein-heavy smoothies) is the way to go.

Having a healthy heart will keep you around a looooong time.

---

You need to be red pilled.

quote:

---

They were thinking c-diff...

---

Common with people who have weakened immune systems. Usually from not eating








Vegetables

quote:

---

I cannot comprehend how some people read Reddit and think they know what's right as far as health and diet are concerned for everyone when there are doctors/researchers all over the world that spend their entire life studying this stuff for a living and find inconclusive evidence and results.

---

To be fair, you present both a straw man and a false dilemma.

You can "read reddit" by reading links to peer-reviewed studies, without getting advice from a random poster. Also there are plenty of "conclusive" studies within the parameters of the study. And as these studies continue coming in showing that the SAD is killing us, I think we can logically draw some conclusions.

Also, the most dogmatic and dishonest hacks I've seen out there (apart from corrupt govs, orgs (AHA for eg) and industry goons) are the radical vegans.

Most of them seem more concerned with furthering a political and "humane"-treatment agenda than with health, and at the cost of honest, scientific analysis.

quote:

---

You can "read reddit" by reading links to peer-reviewed studies, without getting advice from a random poster. Also there are plenty of "conclusive" studies within the parameters of the study. And as these studies continue coming in showing that the SAD is killing us, I think we can logically draw some conclusions.

---

I probably read 3-4 nutritional studies a week that are posted on a variety of social media, be it reddit, twitter or facebook. I go to the actual study and read. I was a complete nerd 4 years ago spending 3-4 hours a day reading just about everything I could about the history of, study of, and science application of nutrition. I know I am a bit quirky and question everything I read. This is how I came to this diet. From SAD to keto to removing plants altogether. It was a gradual process realizing more of what was told to us is BS built on extremely weak evidence.

BTW. People also love to show studies on vegetables improving one's health. The only problem is that those studies are built on the fact that they remove the bad and replace with vegetables (Hello Ornish with added exercise as well as vegetables). Now, I concur that vegetables are better than SAD. But my question is, "did health factors improve because of the vegetables themselves? or because we removed just the bad?" I do not believe I've seen a study showing this.

quote:

---

Do you have a reddit link showing lack of vegetables weakens the immune system? Lol. But f'real.

---

Just take my word for it, I read 3-4 research studies a week about nutrition. I understand it all. /sarcasm....... I’m not even sure I’m doing the sarcasm thingy right.

quote:

---

Well there is taking antibiotics or usually taking them too often, being exposed to other person who is affected feces, usually still wouldn’t affect a healthy person, being old, or being in healthcare, especially nicu or nursery nurses, or just not being healthy

---

I know c-diff is nothing to sneeze at - dogs getting it from their hospital-worker owners is terrible.

Come on now - none of that has anything to do with eliminating greens from the diet.

quote:

---

Sounds awesome. I grab ribeyes when on sale. I stick to chuck roasts for steaks, ground beef, and love short ribs. I make my own broth with leftover bones and marrow bones when I run out of my local farmer's stock. This is where the instant pot comes in handy..3.5 hr broth. I grab a quarter cow every couple of months but also shop the grocery deals.

---

We just got our cowpool allotment for the year - decided to go for a full half side, so I'm stocked with grass-fed good stuff for at least 6 months (250lbs!)

Also, Costco has good briskets. You can buy a 15 lb one for ~$40. I cut it in 3rds and freeze the 2 I don't cook the first day. All I do is Montreal seasoning and then slow cook it in a cast iron in the stove @ like 220 for 5 hours. frickING AWESOME!

quote:

---

I wouldn't be so worried about dropping the greens.

---

Oh, I'm not. I dropped them almost a year ago when I got kidney stones from spinach. I do love broc and cauliflower as well as cucumbers and hot peppers.