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re: Dorian Yates can't even do bench press anymore.

Posted on 10/1/18 at 5:39 am to
Posted by TigerFanInSouthland
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Posted on 10/1/18 at 5:39 am to
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This post was edited on 10/1/18 at 6:08 am
Posted by GREENHEAD22
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Posted on 10/1/18 at 5:42 am to
Its actually the HGH not the anabolics that do it.
Posted by lsucoonass
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Posted on 10/1/18 at 6:51 am to
Wrong

They abused those substances. Big difference
Posted by lsucoonass
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Posted on 10/1/18 at 6:51 am to
No

No he doesn’t
Posted by lsucoonass
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Posted on 10/1/18 at 6:52 am to
This is true
Posted by GeorgePaton
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Posted on 10/1/18 at 7:03 am to
Who is Dorian Yates? And why should I care?
Posted by gumbo2176
Member since May 2018
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Posted on 10/1/18 at 7:14 am to
What do these guys expect after years of abusing their bodies with steroids, HGH, lifting insane amounts of weight, yoyo dieting for comps, etc.


Sooner or later all that shite has to hit back, and those early life choices have left many people crippled as they age.
Posted by DeafJam73
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Posted on 10/1/18 at 7:41 am to
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Wrong

They abused those substances. Big difference




quote:

Their heavy use of steroids


Heavy use is abuse.
Posted by Tiger Ryno
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Posted on 10/1/18 at 7:41 am to
I'm in the same boat.
Posted by CBLSU316
Far Right of Left
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Posted on 10/1/18 at 9:05 am to
I watched this....

Ronnie is in terrible shape.....can barely walk these days.
Posted by lsu5803tiger
Democratic Republic of the Congo
Member since Feb 2006
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Posted on 10/1/18 at 9:56 am to
The guts are a combination of hgh, insulin abuse and large amounts of food. I'm pretty sure Lee Haney retired because of the 'chemical warfare' that Dorian and others were willing to undergo and he didn't want to go there. Can't say that I blame him.
Posted by jennyjones
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Member since Apr 2006
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Posted on 10/1/18 at 10:08 am to
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I watched this.... Ronnie is in terrible shape.....can barely walk these days.


It's sad but true. Ronnie lifted WAY heavier than other competitive bodybuilders and it finally took it's toll.

quote:

"So you guy's still wanna be like me, you still want to have the same work ethic is I had. Well as you can see I'm 8 X Mr Olympia and I can't walk. I endured an 11 hour major back surgery last Tuesday. Do I have any regrets?, if I had a chance to do it all over again would I change anything? Yes if I had a chance to do it all over again I would change one thing. That is when I squatted that 800lbs I would do 4 reps instead of 2, that is my only regret in my career. Those 2 reps I did still haunts me today because I know I had 4 in me but the coward in me only did 2. That is my only regret."



I've unfortunately had to change my lifting habits in the last year or so due to various injuries. It sucks
Seeing what has happened to Ronnie puts it into perspective better
This post was edited on 10/1/18 at 10:15 am
Posted by lsu777
Lake Charles
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 10/1/18 at 10:57 am to
you can lift heavy and use steroids and be fine and not have the problems. But if you abuse your body with either you will have problems. Staying on cycle for years is going to take its toll.

Living on pain meds so you cna train throught he pain is going to have issues.

Ronnie and Dorian aren't the exception for this. If you take anything to the extreme and not listen to your body you are asking for problems.
Posted by prplhze2000
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Posted on 10/1/18 at 2:10 pm to
Just realized I'm stronger than Yates. Never thought I'd say that.
Posted by jennyjones
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Posted on 10/1/18 at 2:51 pm to
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Living on pain meds so you cna train throught he pain is going to have issues.


Yep. This is a bad idea for several reasons.

Tom Prince comes to mind here. After having kidney failure during a show, he disclosed that he was downing an entire bottle of Advil every single day to get through pain.


To your original point, I have had to adjust my training and do more rehab/ prehab movements, but I will not stop lifting
Posted by Shepherd88
Member since Dec 2013
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Posted on 10/1/18 at 3:53 pm to
And Coleman said he’s only regret is not getting 1 more rep on that 800# squat!
Light weight baby!!

Edit: damn, Jenny beat me to the comment!
This post was edited on 10/1/18 at 3:55 pm
Posted by DeafJam73
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2010
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Posted on 10/1/18 at 3:58 pm to
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And Coleman said he’s only regret is not getting 1 more rep on that 800# squat!
Light weight baby!!


The man was an absolute monster. He was willing to the pay the price to achieve that status.
Posted by 1BamaRTR
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Member since Apr 2015
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Posted on 10/1/18 at 4:17 pm to
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Not going to help you with your ignorance.

Or you could just answer a simple question on the thread you started?
This post was edited on 10/1/18 at 4:19 pm
Posted by Rep520
Member since Mar 2018
10476 posts
Posted on 10/1/18 at 4:37 pm to
Your muscles, joints and connective tissues all come with max load ability. PED's enhance muscular strength, but don't have the same effect on joints and connective tissue strength.

That's a reason PED abuse has adverse long term consequences. Your muscles can do work your bone and connective tissues might not be able to handle.

The number of bodybuilders who combine base PED's with more risky stuff is high too. Insulin, recreational drugs, painkillers, those are bad combos and don't sustain longevity.

I would love to see a trial study on lower dose PED usage under doctor supervision. Strip out the uneducated abusers and see what it really does. It will never happen because the push is prohibition. I just don't understand the fear of a science based approach to legislation.
Posted by prplhze2000
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Posted on 10/1/18 at 6:24 pm to
No one ever accused him of not being brain dead.

And I disagree with him being the greatest of all time.

First, the Weider's fix everything. I mean think about it, when is a champ actually beat? They win a bunch in a row and then walk away or retire. Doesn't happen in any sport. These are pageants that are rigged.

Second, the whole bubble gut look is not bodybuilding. Its blowing themselves up with juice or whatever the PED of the day is, aesthetics be damned. Started with Dorian Yates and went downhill from there.
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