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re: Does creatine make a difference?

Posted on 3/6/24 at 10:19 am to
Posted by OysterPoBoy
City of St. George
Member since Jul 2013
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Posted on 3/6/24 at 10:19 am to
The consensus used to be to cycle creatine but I think more recent research has shown that you can just keep taking it daily without much difference.
Posted by poule deau
Member since Jan 2009
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Posted on 3/6/24 at 10:24 am to
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OysterPoBoy


Thanks
Posted by BottomlandBrew
Member since Aug 2010
27082 posts
Posted on 3/6/24 at 11:03 am to
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everyone should take it.


No, not everyone should take it. I tried. It caused the worst gout flares I've ever experienced.
Posted by Mo Jeaux
Member since Aug 2008
58601 posts
Posted on 3/6/24 at 11:34 am to
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I tried. It caused the worst gout flares I've ever experienced.


That was the beer. Aren't you a vegetarian too?
Posted by BottomlandBrew
Member since Aug 2010
27082 posts
Posted on 3/6/24 at 12:01 pm to
I don't drink much these days, and no, I'm not a vegetarian.

Those with a genetic predisposition to gout should be careful with creatine.

LINK
Posted by BilbeauTBaggins
probably stuck in traffic
Member since May 2021
4349 posts
Posted on 3/6/24 at 12:23 pm to
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How will this affect the running?

If you're doing normal long runs, it won't negatively impact your running, but you're not going to see massive gains in aerobic performance. You would get more benefits out of creatine for sprint activities.
Posted by AbitaFan08
Boston, MA
Member since Apr 2008
26549 posts
Posted on 3/6/24 at 12:33 pm to
Reading this thread inspired me. Went out and picked up some creatine today.

I’ll be interested to track any progress I make over the next couple months.
Posted by hogfly
Fayetteville, AR
Member since May 2014
4639 posts
Posted on 3/6/24 at 12:37 pm to
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From the abstract:
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When co-ingested with carbohydrates, creatine enhances glycogen resynthesis and content, an important fuel to support high-intensity aerobic exercise. In addition, creatine lowers inflammation and oxidative stress and has the potential to increase mitochondrial biogenesis. In contrast, creatine supplementation increases body mass, which may offset the potential positive effects, particularly in weight-bearing activities. Overall, creatine supplementation increases time to exhaustion during high-intensity endurance activities, likely due to increasing anaerobic work capacity. In terms of time trial performances, results are mixed; however, creatine supplementation appears to be more effective at improving performances that require multiple surges in intensity and/or during end spurts, which are often key race-defining moments. Given creatines ability to enhance anaerobic work capacity and performance through repeated surges in intensity, creatine supplementation may be beneficial for sports, such as cross-country skiing, mountain biking, cycling, triathlon, and for short-duration events where end-spurts are critical for performance, such as rowing, kayaking, and track cycling.


Whole paper is available for free online.
Posted by litenin
Houston
Member since Mar 2016
2348 posts
Posted on 3/6/24 at 12:39 pm to
I’ve taken it from about Nov-March for past 12 years or so. Maybe one day I’ll try year-round.

I’ve noticed some subtle improvements when on it but nothing dramatic. I believe in the benefits, some more obvious than others.
Posted by TigerAlum93
Member since Sep 2010
3004 posts
Posted on 3/6/24 at 12:41 pm to
Your body uses 3 main energy systems depending on the demands placed on it:

1. The phosphagen/ATP-PC system. This is where the Creatine will make the difference. This is when short/intense energy demands are placed on the body. You will see most competitive strongmen/powerlifters using Creatine.

2. Glycotic system - will kick in after a few mintues of excercise. Carbs/stored glycogen are the main source of energy.

3. Oxidative/Aerobic system - this is the system your body will use when your distance runs take place, Creatine will not help much here, its about oxygen.
This post was edited on 3/6/24 at 12:42 pm
Posted by Arkapigdiesel
Arkansas
Member since Jun 2009
13205 posts
Posted on 3/6/24 at 12:53 pm to
What's the recommended dosage for workout days and non workout days? I just bought some Creapure Creatine.

Also, what about the time of day to take on workout and non workout days?
Posted by hogfly
Fayetteville, AR
Member since May 2014
4639 posts
Posted on 3/6/24 at 12:55 pm to
None of that matters. 5mg per day, every day. Whatever time of day you can remember to take it (I take it every morning when I wake up. My son is all over the place on when he takes his because his mornings are rushed/hectic, so he forgets a lot and takes it when he gets home from school or with protein shakes at night).
Posted by LSUPERMAN
Louisiana
Member since Aug 2007
2472 posts
Posted on 3/6/24 at 1:57 pm to
This board has gone soft

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Does creatine make a difference?


Yes, definitely. But -

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I am currently lifting twice a week and running three times a week


I mean do you need it if you only lift 2 days? Seems to me you are more into cardio than strength and muscle building.

Posted by Uncle JackD
Member since Nov 2007
58638 posts
Posted on 3/7/24 at 5:43 am to
Does creatine need to be take strictly pre workout or would you benefit taking it at any time?
Posted by Mo Jeaux
Member since Aug 2008
58601 posts
Posted on 3/7/24 at 6:33 am to
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Does creatine need to be take strictly pre workout


No.
Posted by Uncle JackD
Member since Nov 2007
58638 posts
Posted on 3/7/24 at 8:43 am to
Good. Because I’ve been chugging it with water @ 430 when I get up. I’d much prefer to put it in a protein shake later in the morning.
Posted by lsu777
Lake Charles
Member since Jan 2004
31013 posts
Posted on 3/7/24 at 9:09 am to
5g consistently. doesn't matter when. just get 5g daily

and lots of other benefits besides muscle and strength, its great for long term brain health.
Posted by rebelrouser
Columbia, SC
Member since Feb 2013
10592 posts
Posted on 3/7/24 at 10:22 am to
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Does creatine need to be take strictly pre workout or would you benefit taking it at any time?


Buy a big jar of 5mg gummies and eat one per night like you would other supplements or multivitamins. If you want to overload to start, be prepared for some stomach discomfort.
Posted by Big Scrub TX
Member since Dec 2013
33403 posts
Posted on 3/7/24 at 10:37 am to
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everyone should take it.
Absurd. Eat real food.
Posted by ronricks
Member since Mar 2021
6477 posts
Posted on 3/7/24 at 10:46 am to
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Absurd. Eat real food.


Creatine is a supplement

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noun
noun: supplement; plural noun: supplements
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1.
something that completes or enhances something else when added to it.


Nowhere did I say to stop eating and use creatine instead. I eat between 16 to 24 oz of steak a day but I still use creatine just like I still drink one or two whey isolate shakes a day - as a supplement not to replace real whole foods. Creatine has benefits beyond exercise and muscle building as well.
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