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re: 39 years old, 6'2 250 lbs. Time to do something

Posted on 2/6/19 at 9:09 am to
Posted by deNYEd
New Orleans
Member since Jul 2007
9703 posts
Posted on 2/6/19 at 9:09 am to
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protein must be eaten first, then veggies, the carbs.

?? can you elaborate on this?
Posted by Hold That Tiger 10
Member since Oct 2013
25486 posts
Posted on 2/6/19 at 9:51 am to
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hey man, his little cult has changed me and my family's life in 1 month. We are all in better shape and feel amazing


That's why I said in my post that there are multiple ways to skin a cat. That's awesome that Keto has worked for you. I have no issues with that at all, but it's not for me. What annoys me is the cult like following, where some of the followers try to make you believe their way is the ONLY way. I feel the same about CrossFit too. No doubt, both have tremendous benefits, but it doesn't need to be forced onto people as the only option. Hell, the way I'm dieting has lots of Keto similarities.
Posted by RoyBoy2323
Slabtown
Member since Oct 2004
3241 posts
Posted on 2/6/19 at 10:46 am to
Thanks Hold That Tiger 10 and Coach Chappy,

I would love to hear more ideas on what to get to eat that is more healthier. I work 14 days and shop for my entire 14 days at one time. I am always snacky and looking for something, usually chips, cookies etc. I assume, more fruits, less chips, cookies. But what about meals that are easy to cook or fix?

Far as keto, that is not for me.
Posted by Hold That Tiger 10
Member since Oct 2013
25486 posts
Posted on 2/6/19 at 11:21 am to
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I would love to hear more ideas on what to get to eat that is more healthier


The internet is your best friend here. I'm not sure what you like, and what you don't. I pretty damn picky, and don't like a lot of stuff, so I'm kind of limited. I'll tell you some of my stuff though.

Breakfast - Eggs, wheat waffle with peanut butter on it, some form of healthy granola bar, banana.

That's my usual go to for breakfast. All will run you around 100-200 calories.

Lunch - usually involved ground turkey or chicken. There are tons and tons of recipes for this out there. I made some ground turkey meatballs that were great recently. This week I made ground turkey and got some low carb/wheat wraps, and made sort of a soft taco with it. With the chicken, sometimes I'll just grill chicken breast (usually cut in half and eat one for lunch). Also plenty of other chicken options you can find.

Dinner - I'm eating no more than 1,800 calories per day. Eating from the options above earlier in the day usually leaves me with 1,000-1,400 calories to go for the day. So there is a wide range of options here. Usually I am eating decent here as well (baked pork chops, baked stuffed chicken), but I've also ate lasagna, rice and gravy etc. meals here. I've stayed well within my goals still. Just know when you are eating something not so great, and try to control your portions, and you'll be fine.

Example...I was with people, and they wanted 5 Guys one night. I went with a smaller hamburger, and split the fries. I was very surprised to find I was still very full after eating that. I just wasn't miserably bloated like I would have been if I ate what I normally would (which to me then, that feeling was being full).

If I'm really hungry in between I'll eat an apple, sometimes popcorn.

There are also recipes you can find for banana, PB chocolate chip muffins or cookies you make that I find to be delicious. Use that as a snack, or breakfast.


Don't make yourself miserable. That's the key.

Try to avoid processed foods. Eat more fruits and vegetables instead. Also, try to avoid "empty calories." Those chips, candy, sodas are big calorie food items, which don't bring you much nutritional value. You are still going to get your sugar from the fruits, but it's not close to the same (despite what the Atkins/Keto guys might try to tell you).

Did you download MyFitnessPal?
Posted by Hold That Tiger 10
Member since Oct 2013
25486 posts
Posted on 2/6/19 at 11:23 am to
Also, do you understand how your body works, as far as breaking down Carbs, Fats, Protiens, and using them for energy?

I never got into this, but you may already have a good knowledge of it. If you don't, I'll do my best to explain.
Posted by Rep520
Member since Mar 2018
10476 posts
Posted on 2/6/19 at 11:25 am to
Even if you don't want to go keto, subbing protein for cookies, chips is a good start.

Protein snacks like jerky, cottage cheese or greek yogurt are good substitutes.
Posted by Hold That Tiger 10
Member since Oct 2013
25486 posts
Posted on 2/6/19 at 11:32 am to
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Even if you don't want to go keto, subbing protein for cookies, chips is a good start


If you are anything like me, you can sub cookies and chips with nothing. When I was bored, I would eat. When I was watching TV, I'd eat. When crap food was available, I would eat it. It wasn't that I was really hungry. More of just a bad habit that needed breaking. And it wasn't as hard to do as you would think.
Posted by lsu777
Lake Charles
Member since Jan 2004
38056 posts
Posted on 2/6/19 at 11:36 am to
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?? can you elaborate on this?


i usually have people sit down with their plate as described

12pm lunch- 2 fist of protein, 1-2 palms of veggies. They eat the protein first, then the veggies

6pm dinner- 2 fist protein. 1 palm veggies then 1-2 palms of carbs. They eat the protein then veggies first then the carbs if still hungry.

i have people do this because they tend to get full pretty quickly as the protein and veggies are usually more filling just due to shear volume per calorie.

also protein has by far the highest thermic effect. 25-35%. Fiber has the second highest which veggies are usually full of. its around 15-18%. Carbs are only 8-12%.

so subconsciously people tend to eat less and they still get in the most important thing which is protein.

its the same reason i prescribe people who are not willing to change their diet to sit with no distractions to eat. After eevry bite they must put their fork down, wipe their mouth, take a sip of water and wipe their mouth again before taking another bite. For each bite i tell them to chew it a minimum of 10-12 bites.

This gets people to eat slower and to do a better job of chewing their food allowing it to digest better. Sucks i have to get them to drink water like that though as it does dilute the stomach acid.
Posted by CoachChappy
Member since May 2013
34210 posts
Posted on 2/6/19 at 12:29 pm to
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I would love to hear more ideas on what to get to eat that is more healthier


I am doing keto now, and cannot push it enough. I am seeing the results. 17 lbs in the first month

However:

When I went from 295-255, I didn't know crap about carbs or Macros or anything.
Breakfast: McDonalds Egg white delight meal with water or cheerios

Lunch: Homemade sandwich- meat, cheese, mayo, mustard lettuce. 1 lunch size chip - water

Snack: granola bar, nuts, or a piece of fruit

Dinner: Meat, veggies, maybe pasta or potato or sweet potato. I did find even then that I slept better when I cut back on the carbs

If I had room in the calorie dept- cocktail or beer or a skinny cow ice cream sandwich


At that size, my app said stay under 2400 cal and I would lose weight. I kept it under 2K and lost weight

I also exercised 6 days a week. with the 6th day being walking playing golf.

On the weekends, I really didn't watch what I was doing. I ate whatever and drank as much as I wanted. I was huge and sedentary, so anything was better than nothing.
This post was edited on 2/6/19 at 12:34 pm
Posted by Lester Earl
3rd Ward
Member since Nov 2003
290883 posts
Posted on 2/6/19 at 12:37 pm to
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Far as keto, that is not for me.



Just curious as to what your reasoning is? What are you scared you will have to cut out?
Posted by jennyjones
New Orleans Saints Fan
Member since Apr 2006
9964 posts
Posted on 2/6/19 at 1:14 pm to
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I am always snacky and looking for something, usually chips, cookies etc.

Far as keto, that is not for me.


Checks out
Posted by crazyLSUstudent
391 miles away from Tiger Stadium
Member since Mar 2012
6132 posts
Posted on 2/6/19 at 1:18 pm to
Low impact aerobic exercise. Lap swimming and cycling are your best bets. Also participate I woild pick up a sport like racquetball
Posted by deNYEd
New Orleans
Member since Jul 2007
9703 posts
Posted on 2/6/19 at 1:19 pm to
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lsu777

ok, that makes sense. I was thinking there was some new science I haven't seen
Posted by lsu777
Lake Charles
Member since Jan 2004
38056 posts
Posted on 2/6/19 at 1:27 pm to
na just an easy way to get people to control themselves
Posted by Ssubba
Member since Oct 2014
7455 posts
Posted on 2/6/19 at 1:34 pm to
Do anything you can to keep your calorie intake down. Whether that is fasting or eating low calorie meals.
Posted by Big Scrub TX
Member since Dec 2013
39872 posts
Posted on 2/6/19 at 2:49 pm to
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healthy muffin
Posted by TigerDeacon
West Monroe, LA
Member since Sep 2003
29897 posts
Posted on 2/6/19 at 3:13 pm to
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I need help with diet and exercise.

Any help would be much appreciated.


How do you feel about drinking your own urine?
Posted by Hold That Tiger 10
Member since Oct 2013
25486 posts
Posted on 2/6/19 at 3:38 pm to
You telling me a 100 calorie muffin made with bananas, peanut butter and honey can't be a healthy option?
Posted by RoyBoy2323
Slabtown
Member since Oct 2004
3241 posts
Posted on 2/6/19 at 4:19 pm to
hold that tiger 10,

Can you email me royedwards23@yahoo.com
Posted by Hold That Tiger 10
Member since Oct 2013
25486 posts
Posted on 2/6/19 at 5:15 pm to
Sure. I copied your e mail. You can take it down.

You've got mail.
This post was edited on 2/6/19 at 5:17 pm
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