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re: The profound irony of looking down on "American Cheese"

Posted on 1/24/21 at 1:46 am to
Posted by Gris Gris
OTIS!NO RULES FOR SAUCES ON STEAK!!
Member since Feb 2008
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Posted on 1/24/21 at 1:46 am to
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I come here for stuff to eat not this shite.



Don’t read threads of no interest to you. Not everyone shares the same tastes or preferences.

We look forward to your contributions. If you have any.
Posted by AthensRattler
Classic City, GA
Member since Dec 2013
949 posts
Posted on 1/24/21 at 2:44 am to
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Their featured cheese


Band name chosen
Posted by Mo Jeaux
Member since Aug 2008
64535 posts
Posted on 1/24/21 at 3:35 am to
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You too good for a grilled cheese with American? If the answer is yes then you're sucking at life. Not everything has to be some other worldly culinary delicacy.



Meh. Gruyère Is better and melts almost as well.
Posted by Tigertown in ATL
Georgia foothills
Member since Sep 2009
30426 posts
Posted on 1/24/21 at 5:42 am to
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I don't care with the FDA or their eurotrash fellow travelers may claim.


I can agree with this as a broad blanket statement
This post was edited on 1/24/21 at 9:01 am
Posted by tigerinthebueche
Member since Oct 2010
38223 posts
Posted on 1/24/21 at 8:35 am to
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Kraft singles are made with less than 51% actual cheese, so it is called a cheese food and is not considered real cheese. You like cheese food? Fine. So do I, in certain applications. But at least understand what you’re talking about.



BOOM

Posted by Sidicous
NELA
Member since Aug 2015
19296 posts
Posted on 1/24/21 at 8:55 am to
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Very true. I tried making my 1st grilled cheese with cheddar, it just softens a bit. But you need that ooey, gooey for a good grilled cheese. Food is not just about flavor. Texture matters a lot too. Eat some soggy fries and you’ll agree.
Try melting your cheddar in a frying pan separately and then sliding it onto the toast.

Kinda like the non stick pan commercial showing the melted cheddar sticking all over.
Posted by Hulkklogan
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Oct 2010
43482 posts
Posted on 1/24/21 at 9:05 am to
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But you need that ooey, gooey for a good grilled cheese.


Sodium citrate + water

It's magic and it's what gives American cheese that ooey gooey melt.
This post was edited on 1/24/21 at 9:06 am
Posted by tigahbruh
Louisiana
Member since Jun 2014
2864 posts
Posted on 1/24/21 at 9:15 am to
It melts well in burgers
Posted by Martini
Near Athens
Member since Mar 2005
49696 posts
Posted on 1/24/21 at 11:14 am to
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Kraft singles are made with less than 51% actual cheese, so it is called a cheese food and is not considered real cheese. You like cheese food? Fine. So do I, in certain applications. But at least understand what you’re talking about.



Well that was the most polite way to say he’s a dumbass as I’ve seen. Well done Darla.

And having grown up with it as most of us have, I do use Kraft American Cheese on grilled cheese and it’s a favorite on cheeseburgers. A friends mother always put two sliced dill pickles on the grilled cheese, a habit I’ve picked up. Butter both sides of the bread and smush it down to get proper browning and thickness.

However, my mother always made “toasted cheese” as she called it. Slice of white bread with a slice of American cheese put under the broiler and we liked it almost black. Probably the first thing I ever made for myself as did all of my siblings and still do it today as do they, well at least the ones still alive. The dead ones not so much.

Her grown up version was to add a slice of tomato on top of the cheese with salt-another thing I do as well. Matter of fact since I have a Cherokee purple tomato from Whole Foods, I’ve just typed my lunch.

It also goes good on a fried bologna sandwich also on white bread with Blue Plate mayonnaise.

We’ve all grown up in a synthetic world and American Cheese is just one more item we have on the list. I love all cheese including this-and I never say “I’ll have a grilled processed cheese sandwich.”

American cheese is more American than Donald J. Trump.

I approve of this message.
Posted by USMEagles
Member since Jan 2018
11811 posts
Posted on 1/24/21 at 11:17 am to
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BOOM


The FDA started coming up with labeling requirements about 100 years ago in response to the kind of chicanery documented by Upton Sinclair in The Jungle. These are not absolute, binding culinary definitions.

No one asks for a "Grilled Pasturized Cheese Product" sandwich, or "Melted Kraft Singles Nachos."

No Reddit neckbeard ever compares American Cheese dismissively to scotch or caviar. They compare it to other cheeses that do meet the FDA criteria.

So there's a lot of inertia behind grouping what's called "American Cheese" into the same categories as other things people call cheese. Quoting the FDA guideline is not some winning answer to my post.
Posted by Stadium Rat
Metairie
Member since Jul 2004
10247 posts
Posted on 1/24/21 at 12:48 pm to
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One of the best crabmeat au gratins you can find is at Bon Ton Cafe in New Orleans.

Their featured cheese in the dish is surprisingly American.

There’s no way anyone can have this dish and still hate on American cheese.


I agree!! When I make it like Bon Ton, I use the Kraft Deluxe. I sub with Kraft Deluxe instead of Velveeta in some of the few dishes I make with Velveeta. Occasionally, I find the Boar’s Head American cheese.
On the Food Network show "Best Thing I Ever Ate", John Besh was on the cheese episode. His best cheese dish he ever ate was the Bon Ton Crabmeat Au Gratin. He we speculating about what obscure cheese blend might be in it and he went on and on.

Somebody off-screen handed him what apparently was the Bon Ton recipe. He got all embarrassed because evidently it only showed just American cheese as the cheese, not anything exotic.

I don't think you'll ever see that episode again because of Besh's legal troubles.
Posted by TackySweater
Member since Dec 2020
24650 posts
Posted on 1/24/21 at 1:33 pm to
Nah man. Your OP is retarded. And you kinda got put on blast for it.

This didn’t go the way you expected.
Posted by Gris Gris
OTIS!NO RULES FOR SAUCES ON STEAK!!
Member since Feb 2008
49636 posts
Posted on 1/24/21 at 1:41 pm to
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I don't think you'll ever see that episode again because of Besh's legal troubles.




Here's the video. It will make you crave that au gratin.

LINK
Posted by mmmmmbeeer
ATL
Member since Nov 2014
10189 posts
Posted on 1/24/21 at 1:45 pm to
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It has no special flavor to it but the melting consistency adds some value.


Kraft singles have a very distinct flavor that I, personally, cannot stomach. It literally tastes like acidic vomit in a solid form, to my pallet. I won't eat it in any application because of that foul taste.

Posted by BiggerBear
Redbone Country
Member since Sep 2011
3164 posts
Posted on 1/24/21 at 1:49 pm to
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So is McDonald’s fries not consider fries since it’s too processed?


So how are McDonald's fries processed?
Posted by Darla Hood
Near that place by that other place
Member since Aug 2012
14108 posts
Posted on 1/24/21 at 1:50 pm to
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It literally tastes like acidic vomit


When I was a kid, Parmesan in the green can tasted like vomit to me. I couldn’t understand why anyone would want it. *shudder*
Posted by Btrtigerfan
Disgruntled employee
Member since Dec 2007
24169 posts
Posted on 1/24/21 at 2:25 pm to


It’s very versatile.
Posted by Gris Gris
OTIS!NO RULES FOR SAUCES ON STEAK!!
Member since Feb 2008
49636 posts
Posted on 1/24/21 at 3:03 pm to
I really wish I could unsee that.
Posted by Martini
Near Athens
Member since Mar 2005
49696 posts
Posted on 1/24/21 at 3:08 pm to
Well she has a nice car.
Posted by USMEagles
Member since Jan 2018
11811 posts
Posted on 1/24/21 at 3:38 pm to
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Kraft singles are made with less than 51% actual cheese, so it is called a cheese food and is not considered real cheese.


So cheese is anything that's at least 51% cheese. Seems circular.

How's this for a thought exercise? Let's say American Cheese is 51% something we'll call "mixture A" and 49% real cheese. If we remove 4% of the total amount of "mixture A" from the ingredients, we now have something that's slightly more than 51% real cheese and slightly less than 49% "mixture A" and is thus "real cheese."

Because this new thing we've made is "real cheese," can we not now mix it with 49% of "mixture A" and preserve it's definition as "real cheese?"
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