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re: Gov't Taco by Jay Ducote

Posted on 3/29/16 at 2:45 pm to
Posted by REG861
Ocelot, Iowa
Member since Oct 2011
36406 posts
Posted on 3/29/16 at 2:45 pm to
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There is a difference between critical thinking, wondering how it might work and hate/bashing.


you didn't see where some dumbass called Jay (the nicest guy) an attention whore, or did you conveniently overlook that?
Posted by LouisianaLady
Member since Mar 2009
81186 posts
Posted on 3/29/16 at 2:45 pm to
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I still don't see the "bashing" or the "hate"

There is a difference between critical thinking, wondering how it might work and hate/bashing.


To be fair, you come to the defense of restaurants when people criticize them all the time Even restaurants you've never seen in your life.

FWIW, I agree with your post here. This site has gone really sensitive when it comes to criticism. Any less-than-perfect opinion of an establishment has a pack of white knights freaking out.

My personal opinion is that too many of us know one another, as well as know employees/restaurant owners/chefs/etc. This is an internet message board. People are supposed to be able to bash whatever and whoever they want without consequence. But that really can't work when the person behind X screenname is known to half of the board.

Anyway, that's just a rant about this board in general over the past couple years. It has really changed. As far as the topic at hand, I obviously want to see the restaurant (and the entire market) succeed. It can only be a positive thing for Mid City. There is nothing positive to come from Jay or the market failing.
This post was edited on 3/29/16 at 2:50 pm
Posted by Enadious
formerly B5Lurker City of Central
Member since Aug 2004
17689 posts
Posted on 3/29/16 at 2:46 pm to
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Speaking of Jay's products, how is teh BBQ sauce? I despise sweet sauce, and prefer mine smokey. I typically only buy Stubb's sauce. Comparatively speaking, how is it?


It's nothing like Stubb's. It is the most un-BBQ tasting sauce that I've ever tried. It has a dull molasses type flavor that's hard to compare it to anything. I'm not saying the sauce tastes bad at all. It's unique. The small sample I tried I liked. If you're really looking for a Stubb's type sauce it may disappoint. Though you may try it and think it's the greatest sauce ever.
Posted by LSUBoo
Knoxville, TN
Member since Mar 2006
101915 posts
Posted on 3/29/16 at 2:47 pm to
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I still don't see the "bashing" or the "hate"


Then you must have overlooked a few posts. Just a few... most have been positive or at least constructively critical like you said.
Posted by Cash
Vail
Member since Feb 2005
37243 posts
Posted on 3/29/16 at 2:59 pm to
I like Jay and hope this turns out great. I am nervous though anytime someone who has never been a restaurant chef(big difference from a competition/home/TV chef) or run a restaurant opens their own place. I might be wrong but I don't think Jay has done anything in the restaurant industry.

I've never tried his bbq sauce but from the sounds of it, it doesn't sound like something I would like.

You have to admire the guys drive though. He's not afraid to grind.
Posted by LouisianaLady
Member since Mar 2009
81186 posts
Posted on 3/29/16 at 3:06 pm to
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I am nervous though anytime someone who has never been a restaurant chef(big difference from a competition/home/TV chef) or run a restaurant opens their own place. I might be wrong but I don't think Jay has done anything in the restaurant industry.


It is a stand in an indoor "upscale" food court that will likely have a lot of hype around it. While there are definitely details I am sure he needs to become familiar with, you also don't have nearly the risk you'd have buying one of the various open-again-closed-again buildings in BR. As long as the market itself as successful, I feel like Jay's place will be as well.
Posted by BMoney
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2005
16257 posts
Posted on 3/29/16 at 3:17 pm to
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I like Jay and hope this turns out great. I am nervous though anytime someone who has never been a restaurant chef(big difference from a competition/home/TV chef) or run a restaurant opens their own place. I might be wrong but I don't think Jay has done anything in the restaurant industry.



The benefit about this setup is that he doesn't have to take nearly the risk that he would if he was opening his own brick and mortar.

I like the BBQ sauce well enough, but I really like the mustard.
Posted by More beer please
Member since Feb 2010
45044 posts
Posted on 3/29/16 at 3:20 pm to
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I still don't see the "bashing" or the "hate"



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I'm sure one of the lackies are going to hold it down while he is out and about...The amount of people on that guys coat tails...


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.A lot of salty people in here.


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more the "entourage" than the man himself


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That attention whore needs to go away.

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people wondering how long it will take his lackies to ruin it for him.

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we don't like his entourage


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I meant the big mouth guy, but I guess I would still need to differentiate !

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You really think he is good for your bro ?


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he has no clue how to run a restaurant.


Posted by More beer please
Member since Feb 2010
45044 posts
Posted on 3/29/16 at 3:22 pm to
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I am nervous though anytime someone who has never been a restaurant chef(big difference from a competition/home/TV chef) or run a restaurant opens their own place. I might be wrong but I don't think Jay has done anything in the restaurant industry.


If people who have never been a restaurateur or chef did not open restaurants, we would always have the same thing.

Just because something is a risk doesnt mean it has to be a failure. Nervous? Sure. But just because he doesnt have experience specifically running a restaurant, doesnt mean its doomed to fail like a few here believe.
Posted by LSUBoo
Knoxville, TN
Member since Mar 2006
101915 posts
Posted on 3/29/16 at 3:26 pm to
If you're going to take the leap into a "restaurant" then this is about the easiest and safest way possible. Rent out a space, focus on a few items, no worries about waitstaff and such or a bar and alcohol licenses, with plenty of time to prepare. Jay has plenty of connections and resources around town when it comes to opening a place, I think he'll be just fine.
Posted by Cash
Vail
Member since Feb 2005
37243 posts
Posted on 3/29/16 at 3:27 pm to
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The benefit about this setup is that he doesn't have to take nearly the risk that he would if he was opening his own brick and mortar.



He is great for publicity for White Star(or whatever it's being called). Will someone be open to sell beer out of plastic cups? Would be nice to walk around and sample things with a cold one.

Opie ought to set up shop in there to sling some boudin.


I'll have to give the mustard a try.
Posted by Cash
Vail
Member since Feb 2005
37243 posts
Posted on 3/29/16 at 3:30 pm to
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If people who have never been a restaurateur or chef did not open restaurants, we would always have the same thing.


I disagree with this. There are tons of guys who honed there skills in an established place, left, opened their own shop, and did some innovative things under their own flag.

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Just because something is a risk doesnt mean it has to be a failure.


agreed

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But just because he doesnt have experience specifically running a restaurant, doesnt mean its doomed to fail like a few here believe.


I know you didn't say I did, but I just want to point out that I didn't say this.

Also, I am now curious to try his mustard.
Posted by More beer please
Member since Feb 2010
45044 posts
Posted on 3/29/16 at 3:33 pm to
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If you're going to take the leap into a "restaurant" then this is about the easiest and safest way possible. Rent out a space, focus on a few items, no worries about waitstaff and such or a bar and alcohol licenses, with plenty of time to prepare. Jay has plenty of connections and resources around town when it comes to opening a place, I think he'll be just fine.


Thats all I am trying to say. Opening a place like that isnt easy, but it also isnt the most difficult concept to tackle.
Posted by timbo
Red Stick, La.
Member since Dec 2011
7304 posts
Posted on 3/29/16 at 3:38 pm to
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Will someone be open to sell beer out of plastic cups? Would be nice to walk around and sample things with a cold one.


The plan is to have a bar in there as one of the booths. I got the impression the bar will sell cocktails, so I'm assuming beer and wine will also be served.
Posted by Jax-Tiger
Port Saint Lucie, FL
Member since Jan 2005
24738 posts
Posted on 3/29/16 at 3:52 pm to
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The plan is to have a bar in there as one of the booths.


A taproom would be the perfect match for tacos...

Sounds like this is the perfect place for Jay to start with. It sounds like he is going to try to put his own spin on the tacos, which can separate him from other taco joints. I have lots of options for Tacos, here in Portland, but I prefer trying stuff that I haven't had before, and Tacos are the perfect vehicle for that. Since you order in multiples, you can order conservatively and get a little crazy at the same time.

I don't want to get ahead of Jay, but this type of place would be great for franchising down the line, if done right, and he creates some unique and delicious flavor combinations.
Posted by Tigertown in ATL
Georgia foothills
Member since Sep 2009
29177 posts
Posted on 3/29/16 at 3:54 pm to
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you didn't see where some dumbass called Jay (the nicest guy) an attention whore, or did you conveniently overlook that?


Is that a question or just an opportunity to act like a jackass. And no I didn't see that.
Posted by Tigertown in ATL
Georgia foothills
Member since Sep 2009
29177 posts
Posted on 3/29/16 at 4:01 pm to
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To be fair, you come to the defense of restaurants when people criticize them all the time Even restaurants you've never seen in your life.


I can see how you would take it that way.

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This site has gone really sensitive when it comes to criticism.


Very true. If we don't say "oh boy, tacos!" it's hate.

I mostly saw people saying they like Jay, hope he does well, and that he is associated with people that might jeopardize his venture.

I hope it works out for him and for BR.
Posted by LSUBoo
Knoxville, TN
Member since Mar 2006
101915 posts
Posted on 3/29/16 at 4:03 pm to
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A taproom would be the perfect match for tacos...


I was thinking the same thing... might have to approach him about a joint venture.
Posted by Hulkklogan
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Oct 2010
43296 posts
Posted on 3/29/16 at 4:08 pm to
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I was thinking the same thing... might have to approach him about a joint venture.




Posted by Jax-Tiger
Port Saint Lucie, FL
Member since Jan 2005
24738 posts
Posted on 3/29/16 at 4:25 pm to
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I was thinking the same thing...




Can't have too many good taprooms. If that food court is upscale, then a craft beer bar would work out great for that type of venue.

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