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re: Best BBQ?

Posted on 5/2/18 at 5:34 am to
Posted by djrunner
Baton Rouge
Member since Jun 2010
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Posted on 5/2/18 at 5:34 am to
quote:

But isn't KC BBQ heavier on the sauce? I've found that I tend to prefer my BBQ not sauced prior to serving. As all the greats say, good BBQ shouldn't need sauce.


LOL, what greats say that? I've done competitions for years and on pork, all the greats last flavor profile is sauce.
Now I don't use any sauce on Brisket or any beef. TX is famous for beef.
Posted by Clark W Griswold
THE USA
Member since Sep 2012
10950 posts
Posted on 5/2/18 at 8:25 am to
Texas is the most overrated. Too many shitty bbq places popping up all over that give it a bad name. Memphis is my favorite.
This post was edited on 5/2/18 at 11:12 am
Posted by Dam Guide
Member since Sep 2005
16797 posts
Posted on 5/2/18 at 8:26 am to
quote:

LOL, what greats say that? I've done competitions for years and on pork, all the greats last flavor profile is sauce. Now I don't use any sauce on Brisket or any beef. TX is famous for beef.


Texas people say it because they are a beef dominated region. You sauce pig.
This post was edited on 5/2/18 at 8:27 am
Posted by AlwysATgr
Member since Apr 2008
21519 posts
Posted on 5/2/18 at 12:04 pm to
quote:

Texas is the most overrated.


Curious as to what constitutes "Texas BBQ" in your world?

What are some of the substandard BBQ places popping up in TX of which you speak (and I should avoid)?
Posted by harro
Member since Feb 2018
162 posts
Posted on 5/2/18 at 12:16 pm to
quote:

Which city/region of N. Carolina will you be visiting?


I'll be in the Raleigh/Durham area, but I'm willing to drive up to an hour if it's worth it. Will only be in town for a couple days on this trip, but will be visiting monthly for work until the job is done.
Posted by Powerman
Member since Jan 2004
175696 posts
Posted on 5/2/18 at 12:24 pm to
quote:

I'm interested in trying this mutton-style of BBQ that Kentucky puts out.


Prepare to be underwhelmed
Posted by nctiger71
North Carolina
Member since Oct 2017
1426 posts
Posted on 5/3/18 at 12:03 am to
East of Raleigh about an hour is Rocky Mount, Wilson and Goldsboro. They each have places that serve traditional, vinegar based, pork bbq.
Rocky Mount - Gardner's
Wilson - Parkers
Goldsboro - Wilbur's, McCalls and a little way out of town in the middle of nowhere is Grady's (only open 10-3, 4 days a week).
A little further east, just south of Greenville, NC, in Ayden is Skylight Inn.
I've eaten at all of those.
In Raleigh is The Pit which serves whole hog bbq but I have not eaten there.

West of Raleigh, about 2 hours is Lexington. There sauce is more tomato based but not like KC. They also typically just cook shoulders. Down east some places do whole hog but not all of them.

This is a video link to a story about Sam Jones' new place in Winterville, just south of Greenville. They also own the Skylight Inn, which has been featured on various TV shows.
LINK

Wilbur's in Goldsboro has also been on TV shows because they have been in business since the 50's and cook it the old way; i.e., with all wood. There are environmental restrictions on newer places so less wood I think. I'm not a big fan of Wilbur's but they do whole hog.

You will find that many bbq places also serve fried chicken. I guess it is just tradition to do that. Probably goes back to colonial times.

Gardner's and McCall's have buffets. McCall's has vegetables, chicken (fried & bbq), fish, ribs sometimes, brisket sometimes (not good), deserts in addition to pork bbq. It has been a while since I ate at Gardner's so I'm not sure what they have.

I have not found any really good ribs in NC, at least not consistently.

There is a chain; Smithfield's Chicken 'N BBQ, and it is pretty good, especially for a chain. If you are short on time it would not be a bad option.
This post was edited on 5/3/18 at 12:07 am
Posted by SCLibertarian
Conway, South Carolina
Member since Aug 2013
42668 posts
Posted on 5/3/18 at 9:49 am to
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Scott’s bbq in Hemingway SC is the top of my list but it is not mustard based. 

I live half an hour from Hemingway and go there once a month. People sometimes have a misconception that South Carolina is all mustard based, but the Pee Dee region of SC is strictly pepper vinegar. Where I'm from, putting mustard on BBQ is considered a crime.
Posted by MSMHater
Houston
Member since Oct 2008
23366 posts
Posted on 5/3/18 at 10:14 am to
quote:

Texas is the most overrated. Too many shitty bbq places popping up all over that give it a bad name.


I think you're right, and wrong. The elite Texas BBQ places have converted me from pig first, to beef first. Killen's Beef Rib is an absolute masterpiece of BBQ. But, I lived here for 12 years before finding BBQ of that quality. And in a city the size of Houston, with as many BBQ restaurants as we have, I don't think it should have taken that long.

The majority are just very average, IMO.
Posted by LeTigre de La Marais
Member since Apr 2018
294 posts
Posted on 5/3/18 at 11:16 am to
quote:

Whatever style Blue Oak does.


They got the beef brisket down like a sumbeeotch.
Posted by nctiger71
North Carolina
Member since Oct 2017
1426 posts
Posted on 5/3/18 at 1:12 pm to
Where is Blue Oak bbq?
Posted by harro
Member since Feb 2018
162 posts
Posted on 5/3/18 at 1:46 pm to
I appreciate the info man. I'll try to check them all out.
Posted by harro
Member since Feb 2018
162 posts
Posted on 5/3/18 at 1:51 pm to
quote:

Where is Blue Oak bbq?


It's in NOLA. They were OK the few times I tried them. They did have some of the best brussels spouts I've ever had. They are one of the better BBQ restaurants in NOLA/BR, but they are nothing compared to some of the places in TX and KC that I've tried.
Posted by nctiger71
North Carolina
Member since Oct 2017
1426 posts
Posted on 5/10/18 at 12:08 am to
We were near Greenville, NC last weekend and stopped by Sam Jones' new bbq place. The one mentioned in the video I posted.
That's it below, the smokehouse is on the side.
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I got the pork and chicken plate, my wife just got chicken.
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His bbq is a little different than most eastern NC bbq, the sauce is red and many others are mostly clear (as clear as vinegar) with pepper flakes mixed in.

The chopped pork was very good and they mix little pieces of crackling in it which I liked a lot. Not everybody does that or they don't do it as well. The chicken had a spice rub on it that seemed to have a lot of chili in it. She liked it more than I did and mine was a little drier than hers. They were out of dark meat.

The mac n cheese was excellent. It was hot when it came out and was not quite as good as it cooled but still very good. She got a sweet potato muffin which was fresh & tasty. The 'corn bread' I got was ok and it's kinda unique as a lot of places serve hush puppies. The beans were ok but not the best I have had and I did not care for their style of potato salad.

If I go back I'll get the mac n cheese and cole slaw, but it is a little far from home.
Posted by TheDude
Member since May 2004
2699 posts
Posted on 5/10/18 at 8:01 am to
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Texas people say it because they are a beef dominated region. You sauce pig.


I don't sauce beef or pig. I have sauce on hand whenever I fire up the smoker in case anyone wants it but barely anyone uses it and the food disappears anyway. I just find sauce covers up the flavor of pretty much anything you put it on. I don't wake up stupid early and smoke a pork butt for hours and hours so that I can taste what is basically flavored ketchup.
This post was edited on 5/10/18 at 8:30 am
Posted by Centinel
Idaho
Member since Sep 2016
46693 posts
Posted on 5/10/18 at 9:04 am to
quote:

I live half an hour from Hemingway and go there once a month.


Lucky bastard.

quote:

People sometimes have a misconception that South Carolina is all mustard based, but the Pee Dee region of SC is strictly pepper vinegar. Where I'm from, putting mustard on BBQ is considered a crime.


I've actually combined both styles. I'll create a pepper vinegar based "finishing sauce" that I put over the pork just after I pull it, then I let that soak in. When I'm ready to serve, I put a good pile of the pork on bun with just a bit of my own mustard-based sauce on top. You get a really good blend of both sauces, and everyone who's tried it has loved it.
This post was edited on 5/10/18 at 9:06 am
Posted by Lookin4Par
Mandeville, LA
Member since Jun 2012
1232 posts
Posted on 5/10/18 at 12:33 pm to
So you're saying Couyon's in Port Allen is not top notch?
Posted by busbeepbeep
When will then be now?
Member since Jan 2004
19539 posts
Posted on 5/10/18 at 1:43 pm to
quote:

Killen's Beef Rib is an absolute masterpiece of BBQ. But, I lived here for 12 years before finding BBQ of that quality. And in a city the size of Houston, with as many BBQ restaurants as we have, I don't think it should have taken that long


Check out the new place Feges BBQ. Their brisket is awesome but haven't been there for a beef rib special yet.

Also, Truth is reportedly opening the Washington st location in about 6-8 weeks.

I've been in Houston for about 8 months, and I've tried pretty much all the BBQ places in town.

One guy's opinion:

Houston-area elite places:

Truth BBQ
Killen's
Feges
Corkscrew (brisket alone - don't like the ribs or sides)

2nd tier:
Tejas Chocolate
Pinkerton's
Willow's (truck at Big Star Bar)
Roegel's
Pit Room
Victorian's

3rd tier:
Ray's BBQ Shack
Jackson St
Rudy's
Brookstreet
Harris County General store * (tried popup downtown, not their restaurant)
Gatlin's

meh tier:
Pizzitola's
Pappas BBQ
Hickory Hollow
Demeris

haven't tried: Harlem Road, Brisket House, Burns, Blood Bros, Brooks' Place, Luling City Market,

This post was edited on 5/10/18 at 1:52 pm
Posted by nctiger71
North Carolina
Member since Oct 2017
1426 posts
Posted on 5/10/18 at 2:41 pm to
I think we discussed Scott’s previously on the travel board.

We went to Savannah a while back and we turned a 5 hour trip into an 8 hour one because I wanted to eat at Scott’s. It was my 2nd time. As we got out of the car there were three guys leaving, appeared to be locals, and one of them asked me where we were from. I told him N.C. and he turned to the others and said “I told you, people come here from all over the world.” They have gotten a lot of favorable publicity in past several years so that is probably true.

I’m looking forward to trying the bbq at his new place in Charleston to see how it compares.
Posted by GoCrazyAuburn
Member since Feb 2010
41839 posts
Posted on 5/10/18 at 2:51 pm to
quote:

went to Bob Gibson's in Decatur, Al. and fond the chicken to be good, but not worth gong out of my way for again. They have all manner of 4-5 foot trophies in the restaurant for pork, but what they serve in their restaurant is an embarrassment. Bland and flavorless. Terrible.




Big Bob's is pretty terrible. The chicken is still okay, but their pork is awful. What they serve in the restaurant isn't close to what they do in tournaments.

My favorite chicken and white sauce is probably Miss Myra's in bham.
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