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How many here think Indies are breaking heavily for Harris?

Posted on 11/5/24 at 9:07 am
Posted by Mid Iowa Tiger
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Posted on 11/5/24 at 9:07 am
I don’t see it happening. At worst they likely go 60/40 to Harris. More likely 55/45 for Trump.


Harris’ goose is cooked.
Posted by Gifman
Member since Jan 2021
15034 posts
Posted on 11/5/24 at 9:08 am to
there's zero chance undecided voters break hard for Harris
Posted by Mushroom1968
Member since Jun 2023
3809 posts
Posted on 11/5/24 at 9:08 am to
I think with RFK on Trump's side, the one's who'd favor Harris are more likely to stay home. I think the Indy vote for the D party this go around is going to be weak.
Posted by therick711
South
Member since Jan 2008
25970 posts
Posted on 11/5/24 at 9:08 am to
Logically, wouldn't it be stunning that Kamala can't motivate her base, but would somehow motivate independents to support her? She hasn't run as a moderate and doesn't back any policy that would appeal to so-called independents.
Posted by thetempleowl
dallas, tx
Member since Jul 2008
15703 posts
Posted on 11/5/24 at 9:08 am to
Depends upon state. Not all independents are created equal.

I have seen some favoring trump, some favoring Harris. My guess is pretty even.
Posted by Scruffy
Kansas City
Member since Jul 2011
75159 posts
Posted on 11/5/24 at 9:09 am to
My prediction is them breaking for Trump, but not a huge margin.
Posted by CajunTiger78
Member since Aug 2017
2879 posts
Posted on 11/5/24 at 9:10 am to
Nope, she's done. The joy movement is all but over!
Posted by GeneralLee
Member since Aug 2004
13879 posts
Posted on 11/5/24 at 9:10 am to
Really depends state by state. There is probably a 2-3% swing to Harris from abortion freaks, but that's probably offset by many low propensity Trump voters that aren't even registered Republicans. I think they'll be close to 50/50 or maybe a very slight Trump lean (52-53%) nationwide.
Posted by Robin Masters
Birmingham
Member since Jul 2010
33918 posts
Posted on 11/5/24 at 9:10 am to
bullshite. Independents are not breaking for Harris. 3-1 for Trump.

What popular independent thought leader has endorsed her? Cause I can give you 10 that have endorsed Trump.
Posted by LEASTBAY
Member since Aug 2007
15719 posts
Posted on 11/5/24 at 9:13 am to
I'm independent and Maga AF so I just can't see it.
Posted by ItNeverRains
Offugeaux
Member since Oct 2007
28166 posts
Posted on 11/5/24 at 9:13 am to
Indy’s are RFK/Rogan/Musk/Tusli types. 75/25 Trump
Posted by bhtigerfan
Baton Rouge
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32460 posts
Posted on 11/5/24 at 9:15 am to
quote:


I think with RFK on Trump's side, the one's who'd favor Harris are more likely to stay home. I think the Indy vote for the D party this go around is going to be weak.
Exactly.

Why the frick would most Indys vote for Cumala?
Posted by Big4SALTbro
Member since Jun 2019
21077 posts
Posted on 11/5/24 at 9:16 am to
I can’t see how some Dems have it 70/30

It’s likely 50/50 worse for Trump likely 55/45 Trump. Having RFK and Ron Paul is massive
Posted by theballguy
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Posted on 11/5/24 at 9:19 am to
I think nothing bad of MAGA people but I am far from being your typical MAGA. I think of myself as an indy.

As such, I know many indies. Surprisingly (to me), they are all voting for Trump and are not shy about saying so.

Basically boils down to this: Trump is just a way better candidate for President than Kamala. More experience, more intelligent, loads better for the economy.

Sure, he says a lot of crazy shite at times. But really, who gives a frick? All politicians say insane shite. Results on the other hand are results.
This post was edited on 11/5/24 at 9:21 am
Posted by JiminyCricket
Member since Jun 2017
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Posted on 11/5/24 at 9:19 am to
Posted by Mickey Goldmill
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Posted on 11/5/24 at 9:19 am to
quote:

I can’t see how some Dems have it 70/30

It’s likely 50/50 worse for Trump likely 55/45 Trump.


Yeah I don't think it'll be a huge margin one way or the other. Close to 50-50.
Posted by 225rumpshaker
Texas
Member since Sep 2006
11076 posts
Posted on 11/5/24 at 9:21 am to
quote:

It’s likely 50/50 worse for Trump likely 55/45 Trump. Having RFK and Ron Paul is massive
Libertarians will be on the trump train with Ron and Elon slashing big government
Posted by The Egg
Houston, TX
Member since Dec 2004
82096 posts
Posted on 11/5/24 at 9:23 am to
in the end, the indies care for some of the same shite the rest of sane people care for

inflation, immigration, jobs, etc.
Posted by Cool McCool
Member since Nov 2024
2652 posts
Posted on 11/5/24 at 9:24 am to
Indies have to grocery shop.

I think think the Democrats hitched their wagon to abortion, and underestimated voter anger at food and energy prices.
Posted by Mid Iowa Tiger
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Posted on 11/5/24 at 9:25 am to
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bullshite. Independents are not breaking for Harris. 3-1 for Trump. What popular independent thought leader has endorsed her? Cause I can give you 10 that have endorsed Trump.



Where did I say 3:1? 60/40 is 3:2 and I said that’s best case and I really think it’s 55/45 or so one way or the other.
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