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Posted on 9/9/21 at 10:52 am to Obtuse1
I appreciate the explanation without the name calling. 
With that said I understand the general outline of what you are saying but fail to understand the FDA specificis driving this policy. However Dr. Malone which is my appeal to authority does apparently understand the specifics. Here is his entire objection:
With that said I understand the general outline of what you are saying but fail to understand the FDA specificis driving this policy. However Dr. Malone which is my appeal to authority does apparently understand the specifics. Here is his entire objection: 
Posted on 9/9/21 at 10:54 am to kennypowers
Shut up dumbfrick
Posted on 9/9/21 at 10:54 am to stout
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Yea what about the USPS?
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As a postal worker, you must follow federal rules, and you receive federal benefits. However, the U.S. Bureau of Labor Statistics doesn't consider postal workers federal employees because the postal service is a quasi-federal agency.
Posted on 9/9/21 at 10:56 am to RogerTheShrubber
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Obedience is the easy route. You don't have to learn, just repeat. This describes most of our population.
Too many people are too comfortable in life and don't want to oppose anything out of fear they will lose their current status. Sadly it is being used against them/us to push more and more control and one day it will all be too late. See Australia for example.
Posted on 9/9/21 at 10:57 am to kennypowers
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Reality is that if more of you mouth breathers would have gotten the shot to begin with we wouldn't need this.
Posted on 9/9/21 at 10:57 am to tgrbaitn08
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the U.S. Bureau of Labor Statistics doesn't consider postal workers federal employees because the postal service is a quasi-federal agency.
Yes I knew that but under this EO they will be considered. The USPS union is already pushing back against it or were a few weeks ago when it first came up this might happen.
Posted on 9/9/21 at 10:59 am to stout
Let's see how well this tweet will age
6 April
ABC News
@ABC
NEW: Press sec. Psaki rules out any possible federal vaccine passport: "There will be no federal vaccinations database and no federal mandate requiring everyone to obtain a single vaccination credential." LINK
LINK
6 April
ABC News
@ABC
NEW: Press sec. Psaki rules out any possible federal vaccine passport: "There will be no federal vaccinations database and no federal mandate requiring everyone to obtain a single vaccination credential." LINK
LINK
Posted on 9/9/21 at 11:00 am to liz18lsu
Question
If I’m mandated to take vaccine and I have an adverse reaction, can a person sue their employer(in this case feds) for damages??
If I’m mandated to take vaccine and I have an adverse reaction, can a person sue their employer(in this case feds) for damages??
Posted on 9/9/21 at 11:01 am to Lugnut
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Question
If I’m mandated to take vaccine and I have an adverse reaction, can a person sue their employer(in this case feds) for damages??
Lulz
Posted on 9/9/21 at 11:01 am to liz18lsu
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The lot #'s for pre & post approved allow them to escape legal troubles. Are you slow on the uptake?
Simply, no. The vaccine manufacturers have had almost complete immunity since the 80s. Even if the vaccine label made a difference (vs simple timing) they have the same immunity under their biologics license that they had under the EUA.
Posted on 9/9/21 at 11:01 am to upgrayedd
Come on guys get the vaccine. I want full churches and gathering by Yom Kippur
Posted on 9/9/21 at 11:03 am to liz18lsu
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Think about a corporation from a legal stance, if you can...
The problem is you do not understand the legal issues involved and thus you are making incorrect conclusions.
Posted on 9/9/21 at 11:04 am to ellishughtiger
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Come on guys get the vaccine. I want full churches and gathering by Yom Kippur
If you don't eat your vegetables, mom won't give us dessert! You need to do this for ME!
Posted on 9/9/21 at 11:06 am to Mike da Tigah
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If you’re reading this above and don’t see an enormous problem with this, then that means that you ARE the problem in this country.
I see a huge problem with it, but probably not the one you're thinking.
It is the same problem I've been harping on for years. We can go a long way to fixing this country if we drastically curtail the power and use of Executive Orders. Our country is little more than a soft dictatorship now, and it has been for a while. End the reliance on Executive Orders and force the Legislature to....you know....fricking legislate!
This post was edited on 9/9/21 at 12:44 pm
Posted on 9/9/21 at 11:08 am to Bourre
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I hope this reduces the federal workforce bigly
Will probably just shift it further left since skeptics being replaced were likely more conservative
Posted on 9/9/21 at 11:09 am to Obtuse1
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The vaccine manufacturers have had almost complete immunity since the 80s.
Only after listing possible known side effects. This hasn’t happened for this vaccine.
Posted on 9/9/21 at 11:10 am to GumboPot
quote:Did you read this on Facebook? COMIRNATY is the branded name of the "generic" Pfizer vaccine.
COMIRNATY is fully FDA approved. It's not available on the market.
BioNTech-Pfizer is still under EUA. It is available and this is the Pfizer vaccine that people think is fully FDA approved.
There is a lot of confusion around this issue and it was purposely rolled out this way so it can be said the vaccine is fully approved and still maintain legal immunity from side effects.
Posted on 9/9/21 at 11:17 am to kennypowers
quote:Don't go at Stout, he knows all about the "mounting evidence" of vaccine side effects.
Reality is that if more of you mouth breathers would have gotten the shot to begin with we wouldn't need this.
Posted on 9/9/21 at 11:18 am to GumboPot
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But they are the same formulation like the FDA said and you claim. Just remove the EUA designation from those vials. You don't have to replace them with COMIRNATY vials. Just change the approval designation of the BioNTech-Pfizer vials from EUA to Fully Approved.
They did, as soon as the BLA was approved those vials without Comirnaty on them were FDA approved. Whether you got a EUA or BL approved dose is wholly dependant on the timing and nothing more.
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Can you explain why this is so difficult? Why wouldn't the FDA make this simple semantic designation to avoid all the confusion?
It is simple, you are doing your best to continue to keep is confusing.
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