re: EO coming today requiring all Federal employees to get the "vaccine"

There was, especially against the Patriot Act, but those voices were drowned out by the media.

And, while the Afghanistan war was much more popular than the Iraq War a couple years later, people were wanting to bomb the shite out of them and gtfo, not stay and nation build.

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You know what sounded like a good idea after 9/11? The TSA, Afghanistan War, and other increases in authority.

A vaccine passport will become the baseline for a social credit system.

There was a narrow window in 2001 that with enough public pressure could have prevented the abominations that occurred after 9/11, but it is too late, those things are here to stay.

There is a narrow window, right now, to put a stop to vaccine passports, but it must be opposed NOW. 2 years from now it will be too late.

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You have as many down votes as up votes for this commentary. I'm generally an optimistic person to a fault and this is probably one of those times I'm at fault. The number of people that would rather side on some perceived notion of safety at the costs of freedom is very disappointing.

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Are they going to require constant boosters forever too, since the shots are worthless after a few months?

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Of course they are. Booster ever 6 months.

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Love the downvoters.

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Zoomers. They're basically wards of the State, institutionalized forever.

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It is a very simple point. Don't say COMIRNATY is fully FDA approved and BioNTech-Pfizer is still under EUA and only provide BioNTech-Pfizer under your mandate policy when the basis of the mandate policy is full FDA approval and you only provide BioNTech-Pfizer. Provide COMIRNATY.

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Nobody should say Comirnaty is approved and the BioNtech-Pfizer vaccine is not. The second the BLA was approved the current stocks of the Pfizer vaccine were also approved. If you got a Pfizer labeled vaccine on August 23rd after the FDA approval was announced it was approved. It doesn't matter what was on the label.

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JUST FULLY APPROVE BioNTech-Pfizer. Then the confusion is gone.

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They did approve the BioNtech-Pfizer vaccine, this is what you are missing. They approved that vaccine AND approved the use of the brand name Comirnaty for use. Trade/brand names have to be approved by the FDA just like the chemical formulation for drugs and vaccines. There are very long very specific FDA documents that outline the approval process for a brand name in the Pharma industry. Brands are important and have value so all drug manufacturers will name pharmaceuticals even if they are dumb names like Comirnaty.

The confusion is only because people don't understand that the brand name has to be approved just like the drug itself and the package insert. They can't use it until the drug is approved. Anyone familiar with FDA approval knew there would be a brand name when approval was granted and the company could then advertise and market the vaccine. The confusion was manufactured vs just explaining the very simple process. Just consider Tylenol for example, McNeil Labs could have originally just called it acetaminophen or by some developmental alpha-numeric code (if approved) but brand names have value. It shouldn't be confusing when a manufacturer uses a brand name for a product it is the established way in almost every sector of manufacturing.

There are plenty of legitimate areas to focus on regarding the vaccines but picking, getting approved, and using a brand name for a product is simply not one of them.

Old Willy Shak understood this over 400 years ago:

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What's in a name? That which we call a rose
By any other name would smell as sweet

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Reality is that if more of you mouth breathers would have gotten the shot to begin with we wouldn't need this.

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9-10 months in and people still spout this shite.

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Most people are sheep by nature. Being a free thinker, explorer, inventer, risk taker is a very rare personality trait. In fact folks in this thread are fighting hard for sheepdom.

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Obedience is the easy route. You don't have to learn, just repeat. This describes most of our population.

Im still pissed my parents didn't give me the choice to decide for myself in my first year of life as to whether I wanted to get the vaccines kids are required to get.

Our freedoms are taken away from us as babies.

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Funny thing, the big Pharma's can't be sued under an emergency drug, which is the same as the approved one. Yet they continue to give out the emergency use one, post approval. Anyone checking the lot # on your vaccine?

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There is no need to check the lot number, the stock of Pfizer vaccine without the Comirnaty label was approved for use when the BLA was approved.

If you received a dose of the Pfizer vaccine on August 14th it was administered under EUA if you received a dose on August 28th it was administered under the biologics license no matter what was on the label of the vial. The issue is one of timing not labeling. The only interesting legal issue is whether a split dose (one before and one after BL approval) would be handled under the CICP ot VICP for any claims administration. Courts would likely find absent symptoms before the second dose it would be handled by the VICP.