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re: systemic racism examples
Posted on 7/10/21 at 8:21 am to concrete_tiger
Posted on 7/10/21 at 8:21 am to concrete_tiger
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My kid was entered into a lottery for a seat at a charter school. White people get one entry, others get 7. Seems fair.
That’s not surprising, but what state? In Florida charters were allowed to give a preference for low academic performers but not high ones. The teacher’s unions always try to stack the deck against them, it’s just a question of how much the state legislature cooperates.
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Posted on 7/10/21 at 8:28 am to Trevaylin
We are less than a decade away from a completely different grading scale for blacks. The A-F grading scale is inherently racist. It’s why blacks can’t get ahead.
Posted on 7/10/21 at 8:33 am to mightyMick
Life is not easy.
We are born, we have about 5 or 6 'easy' years where we have no to little responsibilities, then we start school, where we are expected to learn to read, to write and do math and such.
Fortunately, we get to ease into it, but we don't realize that until later on. Soon, no more recesses, no naps etc.
Then the pressure turns up.
If we have done well, and can find a way to finance it - we go to college. Unfortunately, a lot of us can't, so it's straight to the work force.
Then, the real world situation is that we have to work to pay for our basic necessities such as food and shelter. If we are lucky, we make enough to cover that and a few other things.
This cycle continues until hopefully we can retire. If we have planned well, we can retire at least without too many worries financially speaking. Many still have to scrape by.
If we are lucky, we can enjoy 20 years or so of life after work. Some more. Some, much less.
Bottom line, this cycle in our capitalist, free economy applies to (nearly) all - black, white, red, yellow... it doesn't matter and it doesn't discriminate.
You see this system, you adapt to this system, you 'play the game'. It's not racist. Either work with it or sit back and complain that 'life is not fair' or that the system is 'racist'.
We are born, we have about 5 or 6 'easy' years where we have no to little responsibilities, then we start school, where we are expected to learn to read, to write and do math and such.
Fortunately, we get to ease into it, but we don't realize that until later on. Soon, no more recesses, no naps etc.
Then the pressure turns up.
If we have done well, and can find a way to finance it - we go to college. Unfortunately, a lot of us can't, so it's straight to the work force.
Then, the real world situation is that we have to work to pay for our basic necessities such as food and shelter. If we are lucky, we make enough to cover that and a few other things.
This cycle continues until hopefully we can retire. If we have planned well, we can retire at least without too many worries financially speaking. Many still have to scrape by.
If we are lucky, we can enjoy 20 years or so of life after work. Some more. Some, much less.
Bottom line, this cycle in our capitalist, free economy applies to (nearly) all - black, white, red, yellow... it doesn't matter and it doesn't discriminate.
You see this system, you adapt to this system, you 'play the game'. It's not racist. Either work with it or sit back and complain that 'life is not fair' or that the system is 'racist'.
This post was edited on 7/10/21 at 8:44 am
Posted on 7/10/21 at 8:34 am to Trevaylin
The only thing close to a legitimate argument in the last 150 years was basically the disallowance of black people to own land, thus preventing would be entrepreneurial black people from creating some lasting wealth. Really this is the only remotely close thing to systemic racism from the federal government I have heard of in a long time. I am of the mindset that if you really are upset with your current station in life, you’re in the best country in the world for improving it all on your own.
Posted on 7/10/21 at 8:40 am to ewdij
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higher rate of drug related arrest while having same rate of usage as white communities,
I’m sure you have statistics to prove this?
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things like equally qualified black sounding names not receiving as many callbacks for job interviews as typical white names.
1) systemic involves government laws and mandates. This ain’t it. You failed in this attempt.
2) You are making an awfully racist assumption. Not surprised.
3) stupidity doesn’t equal “systemic racism” you twat. Being an ignorant dumbass and naming your child Xylaphone Jackson is more to do with idiocy than racism. Unless the white man made the person name their kid something stupid.
FWIW, you are the problem in this country. Your consistent failures in life will always outweigh the virtue you signal for peer approval.
Posted on 7/10/21 at 8:45 am to ewdij
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Jim Crow laws
What laws are these? Keep in mind the OP mentioned the last 50 years, so you need examples from 1971 or later.
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redlining
Had little to no impact (check home ownership stats decades before and after, very similar growth rates for all races.) Banks still wanted to make money by lending to well qualified buyers.
Capitalism has always fought against racism. That's why state governments had to enact Jim Crow style laws, because if left to private businesses many wouldn't discriminant if it hurt their bottom dollar. And the few that would, would eventually get out competed.
Go back to Louisiana, 1892. Yes, barely a generation past the Civil War in a Confederate state, when a railroad company paid a 5/6th white 1/6th black man to purchase a first class ticket on their train. Once seated, he told the staff he was 1/6th black, the police were called, he was arrested, and a lawsuit filed. You read that right, a railroad company paid a partially black man to purchase a ticket so they could set up a lawsuit. Google Homer Plessy for more info.
The railroad company was losing money by having to have separate rail cars for whites and blacks, and didn't want to operate under a heavy handed state government telling them that they had to do that.
And what is one of the things BLM railing against today?
Capitalism...
Retards...
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higher rate of drug related arrest while having same rate of usage as white communities
These are in combination with other arrests. When you have a more violent community that does drugs just as often as a less violent community, you can expect more drug charges in the violent community because the police are there more often dealing with the higher rates of violent crime.
Me smoking a joint in my own home and not getting drug charges isn't the same thing as DeShawn robbing a 7/11, getting busted for that robbery with weed on him, and him getting robbery and drug charges against him.
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things like equally qualified black sounding names not receiving as many callbacks for job interviews as typical white names.
Show me the counter studies that do the same thing but with foreign sounding Eastern European names. So have names like John Smith mixed in with names like Latasha Jackson, but also include white foreign names like Miroslav Horvathova.
Is this a "we don't trust black people" sort of thing, or simply a familiarity thing?
I'm willing to bet Miroslav would get fewer callbacks just like Latasha.
Anything else you got?
This post was edited on 7/10/21 at 8:53 am
Posted on 7/10/21 at 10:35 am to Trevaylin
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The US federal gov't preferentially providing Farm loans to white farmers,
That's similar to mortgage loan issues on race. It's not racism. It's math. Actuarial records determine that people who get in wrecks have higher car insurance rates. A teen who has never gotten in a wreck pays more than an adult with a good record because math says the teen is a bigger risk.
Math says blacks (with equal income as whites) default on home mortgages and farm loans MUCH more often than whites. The banks don't care why. They just know it happens and they don't want to lose money.
Posted on 7/10/21 at 10:39 am to Trevaylin
There’s not any. It’s the left’s excuse for the majority of Black Community’s still being far behind the rest of the country. Keep blaming whitey and they’ll keep getting their votes.
No amount of government intervention is ever going to make regular people want to live in poor areas with people who play out rap music culture in real life.
No amount of government intervention is ever going to make regular people want to live in poor areas with people who play out rap music culture in real life.
Posted on 7/10/21 at 10:49 am to Trevaylin
The biggest systemically racist institution in the U.S.A. is the public education system and the teacher's unions that resist all practical ideas to improve it, namely competition.
Posted on 7/10/21 at 11:09 am to Trevaylin
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systemic racism examples
Usually these are things of the Left, but they doesn't want to talk about that. Projection is their game. They always accuse you of what they are guilty of doing.
Posted on 7/10/21 at 11:42 am to Trevaylin
You can make a reasonable argument that public education is systemically racist.
Also, the open border disproportionately (economically) harms POCs.
The problem for the Left is public education is a wholly owned subsidiary of the Democrat party and the open border is the Dem's pet project.
So in other words, as has been the case for 250 years, the Dem party is home to most of the racists in the country.
Also, the open border disproportionately (economically) harms POCs.
The problem for the Left is public education is a wholly owned subsidiary of the Democrat party and the open border is the Dem's pet project.
So in other words, as has been the case for 250 years, the Dem party is home to most of the racists in the country.
Posted on 7/10/21 at 11:49 am to BeNotDeceivedGal6_7
quote:I can live with that.
then they would say the fact that you are asking makes you racist and oppressive.
I have no fricks to give about their accusations.
Posted on 7/10/21 at 11:50 am to David_DJS
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You can make a reasonable argument that public education is systemically racist.
absolutely,
It's a system that has made big promises to educate black kids for decades, and it rarely delivers.
Over and over the teacher's unions say it just needs more money. They have gotten more, and more, and more, but we see no improvements. So now, sensible people seeing that money isn't the solution want to try something new, competition.
The teacher's unions have reacted to that like a stuck pig. The unions aren't there for the betterment of the students. They are there for the betterment of themselves.
We all see it now and it cannot be unseen.
Posted on 7/10/21 at 11:52 am to Trevaylin
That alien in Chicago saying only non whites can interview her
Posted on 7/10/21 at 12:02 pm to ewdij
quote:Decades ago, does not apply.
Jim Crow laws,
quote:Decades ago, doesn’t apply.
redlining,
quote:Outright lie. Doesn’t take prior record into account.
higher rate of drug related arrest while having same rate of usage as white communities,
quote:Then quit giving your illegitimate kids names that no one can pronounce.
things like equally qualified black sounding names not receiving as many callbacks for job interviews as typical white names.
None of the lies you mentioned have any affect on black success. Put the blame where it lays. Shitty black urban culture.
Posted on 7/10/21 at 12:20 pm to Flats
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That’s not surprising, but what state?
Georgia
Posted on 7/10/21 at 12:25 pm to ksayetiger
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you have a link for that? I believe you-i just want to see it in writing so I ask a lawyer friend about it
Would prefer not to dox my kid yet, but here is some of the wording. Please don’t post school info here.
Students who qualify for and identify economically disadvantaged status in their lottery application will receive an additional weight of up to 7:1 in the lottery. Xxx will continue to employ a weighted lottery until our school-wide population of students eligible for free and reduced lunch is 25%.
Posted on 7/10/21 at 12:26 pm to Nosevens
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So the white child is only 1/7th of a person
Yep and academics is not even part of the equation. It’s all about equity.
Posted on 7/10/21 at 12:33 pm to Trevaylin
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The US federal gov't preferentially providing Farm loans to white farmers,
That really doesn’t tell the whole story. The disparity in loans was more a product of the size of the black-owned farms as compared to the size of the other farms. The government was much more eager to loan money to farmers with the potential to feed a lot of people. The black farms tended to be smaller, and less beneficial to the rest of the community/region/country. If a black farmer had a big farm with a lot of potential output, he’d have gotten the loan. If a white farmer had a small farm, he wouldn’t have qualified, either, just like the black farmer.
Posted on 7/10/21 at 12:33 pm to Trevaylin
If you are going to restrict this to the last 50 years, the Drug Free School Zones were the biggest, followed by huge disparities in funding for public schools.
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