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Posted on 1/28/21 at 9:33 am to
Posted by Tiger Ryno
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Posted on 1/28/21 at 9:33 am to
How is orgeron in any way qualified to evaluate a coach on a white board session?
Posted by Captain Crown
Member since Jun 2011
51966 posts
Posted on 1/28/21 at 9:34 am to
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The deal being discussed is one that would pay him close to what he was making at Miami


If that's the case for him being just the linebackers coach

Woody :
Posted by whitefoot
Franklin, TN
Member since Aug 2006
11182 posts
Posted on 1/28/21 at 9:35 am to
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He was actually let go in January

Dude...
Posted by Bjorn Cyborg
Member since Sep 2016
28522 posts
Posted on 1/28/21 at 9:36 am to
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How is orgeron in any way qualified to evaluate a coach on a white board session?


Dude, really?

Maybe log off the Rant occasionally. The memes and talking points are funny, but they aren't real.
Posted by HappyTigerDay
Shreveport
Member since Sep 2011
843 posts
Posted on 1/28/21 at 9:37 am to
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How is orgeron in any way qualified to evaluate a coach on a white board session?


15-0 is how. Do you even know what a white board session looks like in these interviews? I’ll answer for you.. you don’t
Posted by dwright369
Member since Aug 2020
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Posted on 1/28/21 at 9:46 am to
Please don’t. You are a miserable poster as it is. Please post less
Posted by deuce985
Member since Feb 2008
27660 posts
Posted on 1/28/21 at 9:48 am to
You guys are ignorant. Both Williams or Baker would be great hires. Baker is a former DC so he has experience to help in gameplans. He's a known good LB coach, he has recruiting connections LSU loves to stay fertile in, and he's a pretty good recruiter(don't look at his recruiting ranking on the sites those are BS). What else do you want? Williams might make more sense if they want connections over there but you're competing with Georgia, Bama, etc. which you're going to lose a lot of those battles. You can recruit fertile areas where LSU doesn't have much to worry about in home teams. Seems like a better focus on resources.

Baker makes more sense to surround Jones with guys who have DC experience in case he needs help with gameplans. He's young and you don't really know what you have there yet. Williams doesn't have that and based on AU fans saying Williams was shown the door because he seemed rather incompetent from an X and Os standpoint it makes even more sense. Though that part is likely BS from AU fans.
This post was edited on 1/28/21 at 9:54 am
Posted by CatfishJohn
Member since Jun 2020
14882 posts
Posted on 1/28/21 at 10:10 am to
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How is orgeron in any way qualified to evaluate a coach on a white board session?



Man - I don't like Orgeron as our head coach too much, but the man has been in football for decades, coached at every level, and obviously knows enough to hold a white board session for a LB coach.

Furthermore, I said this:

quote:

We know for a fact that Orgeron and staff


Clearly indicating other members of the staff are there as well for these. Assuming now our DC is there as well for these.

Regardless, your comment is fricking stupid however you slice it and you sound like a complete douche bag.

Posted by duboisd
Palestine, Texas
Member since Jan 2006
2506 posts
Posted on 1/28/21 at 10:15 am to
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How is orgeron in any way qualified to evaluate a coach on a white board session?



Yet everyone here can evaluate coaches on a message board. I can't believe how many people are smarter than a guy that just two years ago went 15-0 and won a national championship. If that's not good enough, nothing ever will be. I can remember back when people were thinking if Burrow wasn't good enough to start at Ohio St., that he wouldn't be good enough here. Wrong!

Very few of us know anything about what goes on in that building. Maybe Williams is a good recruiter and coach, but maybe he's also a raging a-hole. Do we want to marry every good looking woman we see? It really doesn't have to be as earth shattering as we make it out to be.
Posted by CatfishJohn
Member since Jun 2020
14882 posts
Posted on 1/28/21 at 10:18 am to
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Do we want to marry every good looking woman we see?


Posted by deuce985
Member since Feb 2008
27660 posts
Posted on 1/28/21 at 10:33 am to
They're asking him to be a LB coach not a DC too. Big difference. Miami fans want him gone because their defense sucked and he got demoted but still DC. Manny took the DC duties away from him so he has it in title only.
Posted by BayouCowboy
Member since Dec 2012
14843 posts
Posted on 1/28/21 at 10:47 am to
One plus is he's from Houston and we heavily recruit that area.

I don't have any dog in the fight. I had never heard of Daronte before and Baker doesn't jump off the page as a home run. That doesn't mean they can't come in and turn the D around it just means we'll have to wait before proclaiming these hires boom or bust.
Posted by I20goon
about 7mi down a dirt road
Member since Aug 2013
14962 posts
Posted on 1/28/21 at 11:01 am to
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How is orgeron in any way qualified to evaluate a coach on a white board session?
quote:

but the man has been in football for decades, coached at every level, and obviously knows enough to hold a white board session for a LB coach.

Orgeron and a couple others that coached under Carroll at USCw also have something that works in their favor.

Carroll insisted each position coach spend time coaching the same position on the opposite side of the ball. So Orgeron spent time coaching the OL, and Cregg spent time coaching the DL.

The primary reason for this was to make them better technical coaches.

But the secondary benefit is that it makes them better evaluators of other coaches. It was lagniappe experience that helped them understand that there's different approaches for different positions. When it comes to whiteboard sessions, or interviews, it is relevant experience.

It opened his eyes to one of his biggest faults while at OM which is the micromanaging of every position.
Posted by da prophet
hammond, la
Member since Sep 2013
2485 posts
Posted on 1/28/21 at 12:11 pm to
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So we are going to pay a lb coach close to $700,000 interesting

Don’t see a problem with that. You went on the low end with the DC hire because he’s unproven. So, go high end with a LB coach that has significant DCand LB experience. Some people on this board act like Jones needs to prove himself in a vacuum. All help should be welcomed.
Posted by Bert Macklin FBI
Quantico
Member since May 2013
10143 posts
Posted on 1/28/21 at 12:37 pm to
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Coach O hired someone he knew vs getting the best available LB Coach in the nation.


What is Baker's tie to O? He played at Tulane, He coached at La Tech prior to going to Miami, and he coached at Arkansas state before La tech.

I don't see any crossover between Baker and O from that resume.

Also as others have noted that there must be something wrong with the Travis Williams situation if he's this can't miss position coach and he hasn't even been invited to the Bama rehab center as an analyst yet.
Posted by redfish99
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Member since Aug 2007
16897 posts
Posted on 1/28/21 at 12:39 pm to
"Meh, doesn’t make much sense when a guy like Travis Williams who has proven to not only be a better position coach but also a significantly better recruiter is out there looking for a job and would be a much better hire."



You read that on the internet so it must be true.... :lol:losers
Posted by mgdtiger
Member since May 2006
2941 posts
Posted on 1/28/21 at 12:44 pm to
Connection is he was probably one of the names O vetted for dc last year. Before giving in on Pelini. Plus, coaches know each other especially locally.
Posted by da prophet
hammond, la
Member since Sep 2013
2485 posts
Posted on 1/28/21 at 12:50 pm to
Also Williams has spent virtually his entire coaching career at Auburn. Hope it’s Baker.
Posted by MONROE
In the belly of the beast
Member since Sep 2015
2478 posts
Posted on 1/28/21 at 2:04 pm to
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How is orgeron in any way qualified to evaluate a coach on a white board session?


15-0 you little whiny, miserable bitch
Posted by TigerNSac
Sacramento
Member since Oct 2008
592 posts
Posted on 1/28/21 at 2:08 pm to
Ok Dude, you want to sound "Big and Bad" online. That is fine. Here is the deal.

Apparently, you did not fully read my comments. You tried to place your personal comments to my writing. I never said Coach Williams was the best LB Coach ... I also never mentioned his name in my writing. So stop making up shite.

However, it cannot be denied that Blake Baker that he was awful at Miami as a DC, when the Head Coach, Manny Diaz, takes over his play-calling duties. That is FACT.

Stick to the basics. You have not once stated what makes Baker so good. You blew a lot of hot air.

You are just someone on the internet trying to bigger than what you probably are in reality, 5'3'' writing B.S.
This post was edited on 1/28/21 at 2:11 pm
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