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Why wasn't Archie Griffin successful in pros?
Posted on 12/19/20 at 8:48 pm
Posted on 12/19/20 at 8:48 pm
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Posted on 12/19/20 at 8:55 pm to prplhze2000
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Posted on 12/19/20 at 9:06 pm to prplhze2000
For a long time, only OJ rose above the Heisman jinx as an RB.
And we see where that got him
And we see where that got him
Posted on 12/19/20 at 9:07 pm to mattz1122
He was the 6th RB drafted in the 1976 draft. I think the GMs wanted RBs and, even so, he was the 6th one taken.
Posted on 12/19/20 at 9:08 pm to prplhze2000
He was too busy guarding Mayberry and raising Opie
Posted on 12/19/20 at 10:31 pm to prplhze2000
Crazy thing One of Griffins Heisman winning years he wasn't even Big 10 Rushing leader..It was Gordy Bell Michigan.
Posted on 12/19/20 at 10:34 pm to prplhze2000
Because he wasn't Andy Griffith.
Posted on 12/19/20 at 11:03 pm to prplhze2000
In the mid 70s, Archie Griffin was by far the biggest star in college football while a RB from a HBCU named Walter Payton was completely ignored by the press. That infuriated Payton. He watched every Ohio State game he possibly could and was in disbelief that people thought Griffin was the best RB in college football. Payton saw a guy who was much smaller and slower than him. When he watched Griffin play, he would yell at the television "Look at this garbage. The holes they're opening for Griffin are enormous. I'd run circles around this guy."
So yeah, Griffin was basically a player who didn't have NFL size, speed, or athleticism and benefited heavily from a great offensive line in college.
So yeah, Griffin was basically a player who didn't have NFL size, speed, or athleticism and benefited heavily from a great offensive line in college.
Posted on 12/19/20 at 11:12 pm to East Coast Band
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And we see where that got him
Umm.
An HoF career with a very lucrative career in sports TV and Hollywood?
Posted on 12/19/20 at 11:15 pm to AlonsoWDC
A friendship with the patriarch of the Kardashian family, a fun music video, his own prank video show, a book deal with a major publisher, notoriety around the world.
I think I’m missing something though.
I think I’m missing something though.
Posted on 12/20/20 at 12:10 am to prplhze2000
The Bengals have ruined many potential NFL careers
Posted on 12/20/20 at 6:26 am to East Coast Band
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For a long time, only OJ rose above the Heisman jinx as an RB.
And we see where that got him
Congratulations, Charles. That is something no one can ever take away from you.
Posted on 12/20/20 at 8:39 am to Bench McElroy
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So yeah, Griffin was basically a player who didn't have NFL size, speed, or athleticism and benefited heavily from a great offensive line in college.
He also benefited from the vastly bigger talent disparities in CFB back then, when scholly limits were way higher. For a decade or so, the Big 10 was referred to as the Big 2 and the Little 8. Michigan and OSU won 60-0 nearly every week, and guys like AG (and Gordon Bell, who's also mentioned is this thread) padded stats against glorified MAC-teams.
Posted on 12/20/20 at 8:50 am to prplhze2000
NFL was very uncreative back in the ‘70’s and the small all purpose back which is so popular now wasn’t a schematic.
It was power football with a two back set. Today he’d be a hell of a weapon in a hybrid run pass combination roll.
It was power football with a two back set. Today he’d be a hell of a weapon in a hybrid run pass combination roll.
Posted on 12/20/20 at 9:28 am to prplhze2000
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Archie Griffin
Didn’t deserve to win that 2nd Heisman in 1975
Posted on 12/20/20 at 9:31 am to Keys Open Doors
Posted on 12/20/20 at 9:34 am to kemowasabi
quote:in 2015 the Heisman winner was also the second rusher in his own conference.....
Crazy thing One of Griffins Heisman winning years he wasn't even Big 10 Rushing leader..It was Gordy Bell Michigan.
Posted on 12/20/20 at 9:38 am to kemowasabi
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Crazy thing One of Griffins Heisman winning years he wasn't even Big 10 Rushing leader..It was Gordy Bell Michigan.
This is a actually false.
Gordy Bell had 1390 yards, Archie had 1450.
You may be referring to Ricky Bell from USC who had 1957 yards in 1975.
Archie's problem in 1975 was Pete Johnson was also a 1,000 yard rusher for Ohio Stateand stole all of Archie's touchdowns (25 for Pete, 5 for Archie) since he was a goalline power back.
Posted on 12/20/20 at 9:41 am to KosmoCramer
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You may be referring to Ricky Bell from USC who had 1957 yards in 1975.
There was also Munchie and Dorsett
Posted on 12/20/20 at 9:53 am to SPEEDY
Fact is that the heisman was never about the best player in college football. It’s always been about a media market team and a player that stood out.
Example, in 2011 Honey badger deserved it.
In 1997, Manning deserves it.
This year, Smith deserves it but won’t get it.
Suh deserved it that one year.
Most years it isn’t going to the best player. It’s hard to take it seriously as a barometer for success at the next level in all honesty.
Example, in 2011 Honey badger deserved it.
In 1997, Manning deserves it.
This year, Smith deserves it but won’t get it.
Suh deserved it that one year.
Most years it isn’t going to the best player. It’s hard to take it seriously as a barometer for success at the next level in all honesty.
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