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Is lying still considered a sin or "bad" at all these days?

Posted on 11/26/20 at 6:56 pm
Posted by Methuselah
On da Riva
Member since Jan 2005
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Posted on 11/26/20 at 6:56 pm
I know lying has been around since language was invented, but it seems like there was a time when society at least pretended to frown upon it. Rules, religious edicts and social mores all forbid it.

Now it seems like everyone from national leaders and politicians to tons of people on message boards and social media pretty much use it interchangeably with the truth without any thought whatsoever.

So, is there any stigma to just outright lying all of the time anymore?
Posted by HailHailtoMichigan!
Mission Viejo, CA
Member since Mar 2012
73509 posts
Posted on 11/26/20 at 6:56 pm to
People lied a lot "back in the day", too.
Posted by Gator5220
Member since Aug 2010
4878 posts
Posted on 11/26/20 at 6:57 pm to
Sin hasn't changed, just our justification for committing it.
Posted by FearTheFish
Member since Dec 2007
4369 posts
Posted on 11/26/20 at 6:57 pm to
quote:

is there any stigma to just outright lying
Depends. Sometimes it’s “trying to get laid” - sometimes it’s “perjury”
Posted by WestCoastAg
Member since Oct 2012
149702 posts
Posted on 11/26/20 at 6:58 pm to
Thanks boomers for normalizing lying
Posted by jcolding41
Member since Sep 2015
5922 posts
Posted on 11/26/20 at 6:58 pm to
Lying nowadays has evolved into a synonym for "you offended me".
Posted by OTIS2
NoLA
Member since Jul 2008
52307 posts
Posted on 11/26/20 at 6:59 pm to
Nope. You can lie, cheat,steal and frick your way to the top these days.
Posted by Methuselah
On da Riva
Member since Jan 2005
23350 posts
Posted on 11/26/20 at 7:02 pm to
quote:

Thanks boomers for normalizing lying



Nah. I think the normalization of it is a post boomer phenomenon. Sure, they had people that were considered pathological liars before, but they were pretty much shunned or at least politely avoided.
Posted by Hurricane Mike
Member since Jun 2008
20059 posts
Posted on 11/26/20 at 7:06 pm to
Dim’s don’t believe in God, much less sins. They have no morals therefore lying is cool.
Posted by NotoriousFSU
Atlanta, GA
Member since Oct 2008
12259 posts
Posted on 11/26/20 at 7:19 pm to
All of this is true, but the cap for women still remains at VP. Thank god for that.
Posted by The Torch
DFW The Dub
Member since Aug 2014
28566 posts
Posted on 11/26/20 at 7:29 pm to
Pre marriage it's called bull shitting.

Post marriage it's called lying.
Posted by PowerTool
The dark side of the road
Member since Dec 2009
23074 posts
Posted on 11/26/20 at 7:37 pm to
I wish a buck was still silver. It was back when the country was strong.
Posted by GaDawg9977
Member since Aug 2016
2399 posts
Posted on 11/26/20 at 7:38 pm to
Man doesn’t set the standards for sin, God does. He never changes. If a sin gets “normalized” it’s because man moves away from God.
Posted by ScubaTiger
Baton Rouge, Louisiana
Member since Dec 2003
4765 posts
Posted on 11/26/20 at 7:50 pm to
It is if you consider integrity valuable. Being honest is healthier than being dishonest and is easier to deal with in the long run, IMO.
Posted by Displaced
Member since Dec 2011
33008 posts
Posted on 11/26/20 at 7:52 pm to
If there is a God, he is a cruel a-hole and undeserving of our worship.
Posted by Kentucker
Rabbit Hash, KY
Member since Apr 2013
20055 posts
Posted on 11/26/20 at 7:53 pm to
Opened thread because I read it as lying still. Thought maybe my first wife had joined tRant.
Posted by Havoc
Member since Nov 2015
38349 posts
Posted on 11/26/20 at 8:01 pm to
quote:

People lied a lot "back in the day", too.

I don’t think the issue was as much the degree of lying as much as the degree of social stigma attached to it. And it has undoubtedly lessened. It was just a dozen years ago that “journalists” caught dishing out in plain lies were shamed or even fired (rightfully so), like Dan Rather. Heck just 5 years ago Brian Williams was hugely shamed (and I think fired) when years of lies kinda culminated at once.

But now? Countless plain lies are told on CNN and MSNBC every day with apparently no shame or recourse.
Posted by pigskinGod
Member since Sep 2020
1573 posts
Posted on 11/26/20 at 8:04 pm to
Its okay to lie as long as you're doing it to get black people to vote democrat
Posted by Fat and Happy
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2013
19628 posts
Posted on 11/26/20 at 8:14 pm to
I regularly tell ladies what they want to hear even if it’s far far from the truth
Posted by IAmNERD
Member since May 2017
23938 posts
Posted on 11/26/20 at 8:14 pm to
quote:

You can lie, cheat,steal and frick your way to the top these days.

Yep. Kamala Harris is one step away from the literal top.
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