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re: Saints vs Bucs highest rated opener on Fox since 2016

Posted on 9/14/20 at 8:13 pm to
Posted by VaeVictus
Member since Feb 2017
1525 posts
Posted on 9/14/20 at 8:13 pm to
Nationwide game with a lot of hype.

Rest of the games were all down, including Jerry's team and the L.A. Rams.

Gowokegobroke
Posted by The Melt
Metairie
Member since Apr 2018
984 posts
Posted on 9/14/20 at 8:15 pm to
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This guy is proof that our educational system is broken. Yikes


I just love when posters think they are the educated or informed ones but they really have no clue

Yall realize ratings aren't a 1:1 ratio for tuned in households to the equivalent jump in rating points, right? You don't need 70,000 or millions of additional viewers to push the ratings in a big way. Literally just a couple hundred more households swings ratings big time. Stadiums and bars not having fans absolutely has a massive effect. If just a couple hundred people that would typically watch in a stadium or bar are Neilsen households, that swings the estimated viewers by hundreds of thousands or millions. If all of the variables were the same as previous years, the ratings would absolutely be lower.

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The Nielsen ratings are calculated based on a sample of 40,000 homes and about 100,000 people that's demographically representative of the population as a whole. It's a small fraction of the 120 million or so homes with TV, but also a lot more than, say, a typical political poll that surveys just a couple thousand people.


40,000 out of 120 millions households. That it. Don't tell me a couple hundred or thousand in nola and Tampa can't make a gigantic difference.
Posted by LSU1215
Monroe
Member since Aug 2009
3809 posts
Posted on 9/14/20 at 8:46 pm to
1 month ago- "i'm never watching the nfl game again."

1 hr after week 1 game- "The defense front looked good and AK deserved that money. Good game boy!"

GTFO
Posted by TigahJay
New Orleans
Member since Sep 2015
10578 posts
Posted on 9/14/20 at 9:01 pm to
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Saints vs Bucs highest rated opener on Fox since 2016

Thanks SirWinston!
Posted by Athis
Member since Aug 2016
11712 posts
Posted on 9/14/20 at 9:25 pm to
Posted by P bean
br
Member since Dec 2006
4073 posts
Posted on 9/14/20 at 9:42 pm to
Was about to post this.


Hilarious!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Posted by P bean
br
Member since Dec 2006
4073 posts
Posted on 9/14/20 at 9:44 pm to
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40,000 out of 120 millions households. That it. Don't tell me a couple hundred or thousand in nola and Tampa can't make a gigantic difference


What difference does it make??????


All the arseholes crying and saying they arent watching are full of shite.

And all the morons screaming the NFL is dead and folks wont watch are also full of shite.

Bye bye!
Posted by The Melt
Metairie
Member since Apr 2018
984 posts
Posted on 9/14/20 at 10:14 pm to
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What difference does it make?????? All the arseholes crying and saying they arent watching are full of shite. And all the morons screaming the NFL is dead and folks wont watch are also full of shite. Bye bye!


1. I suspect you are easily influenced by the media or what you read online and you are overestimating how many people are "boycotting." Many are probably reducing their NFL viewing habits but those who aren't watching at all stopped in 2016.

2. Do you really think 40,000 households out of 120,000,000 captures any boycott? It's much more likely many Nielsen households that would typically watch in the stadium or at a bar, watched at home which skewed ratings. 16 stadiums worth of people at an average of 70,000 each is 1,120,000 people along with the millions that typically watch at bars. Way more likely that there were a healthy amount of Nielsen households in the millions that would typically watch elsewhere and as I stated earlier, it's not a 1:1 ratio. It's more like one Nielsen household equals 3,000 "viewers." A swing of 2,000,000 "viewers" is only 666 Nielsen households. It's a little more complex than that since they may weigh some households more than other depending on demographics but you get the gist.

Look at merchandise sales and gambling if you want to judge the effects of any boycott. TV ratings are unlikely to properly capture it.
This post was edited on 9/14/20 at 10:32 pm
Posted by bonethug0180
Avondale
Member since Jul 2018
4351 posts
Posted on 9/14/20 at 11:18 pm to
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40,000 out of 120 millions households. That it. Don't tell me a couple hundred or thousand in nola and Tampa can't make a gigantic difference.


You're still not fully getting how this works.

The areas with a larger population have more "nielsen homes".

New Orleans is going to have very few. And even if ALL of those homes tuned in, it still takes the population of the area as a whole into account.

So even in that case it would only boost the ratings a small amount because of how small of a population we have in our area.

It's all relative. Bigger cities have more "nielsen homes" have a larger impact, and vice versa.
Posted by Deuce McWin
Canal Street
Member since Aug 2004
1055 posts
Posted on 9/15/20 at 6:36 am to
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but I thought most of those 70k were boycotting anyway?

Feels like they all started a thread to tell us about it
Posted by CP3forMVP
Member since Nov 2010
14948 posts
Posted on 9/15/20 at 6:52 am to
It would be fun to go back and see what some of the boycotters were up to around 3:30ish on Sunday
Posted by The Melt
Metairie
Member since Apr 2018
984 posts
Posted on 9/15/20 at 7:20 am to
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You're still not fully getting how this works.

The areas with a larger population have more "nielsen homes".

New Orleans is going to have very few. And even if ALL of those homes tuned in, it still takes the population of the area as a whole into account.

So even in that case it would only boost the ratings a small amount because of how small of a population we have in our area.

It's all relative. Bigger cities have more "nielsen homes" have a larger impact, and vice versa.


Dude, my first post was a quick post from my phone. I went into more depth in my later posts. Big cities across the country have shut down bars and stadiums, that's millions of people in areas that you just admitted have more Neilsen households per capita who don't have an alternate location to watch so they watched at home. And you're right, Neilsen doesn't properly capture the rural populations who would be more likely to "boycott." I initially used NOLA as an example thinking ya'll would have some critical thinking skills to see the nationwide picture but I was obviously wrong. As I said earlier, just a handful in NOLA and Tampa can have an effect on the ratings as only 666 nationwide would swing the "viewers" by millions.
Posted by noonan
Nassau Bay, TX
Member since Aug 2005
36905 posts
Posted on 9/15/20 at 8:40 am to
I don't know that you're info is still the way it works. YouTubeTV participates in Nielson TV market research, I imagine plenty of other streaming services do as well. You can turn it off under settings if you would like.

I think the saints game was just the game of the week. I'm not dead set against watching, I'm still disappointed that they glorified a rapist, and all this stuff they are doing is just for show. I didn't turn on any nfl games at my house but I was at two different places this weekend that had the game/Redzone on. I have three fantasy football leagues that decided not to play this year and there wasn't a peep from any of those guys this weekend. The last couple of years I've had less and less interest in watching, so I guess it's not that big of a deal that I didn't watch this week. But I was also someone that normally watched at a bar, so my not watching won't count for much.
This post was edited on 9/15/20 at 8:41 am
Posted by LSU316
Rice and Easy Baby!!!
Member since Nov 2007
29316 posts
Posted on 9/15/20 at 8:42 am to
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it was attributed to 70,000 that typically watch in the dome




That's like dropping a piece of pea gravel in the Gulf at the Rigs and expecting people to see the water ripple on the beach in Grand Isle
Posted by metryboy
Member since Oct 2008
657 posts
Posted on 9/15/20 at 8:50 am to
You have only seen some that hope they lose? I have seen some that Hope Drew Brees dies in some horrible way. People lost their damn minds up in here.
Posted by windshieldman
Member since Nov 2012
12818 posts
Posted on 9/15/20 at 9:03 am to
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You have only seen some that hope they lose?

On here I’ve seen a few, irl I think one did

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I have seen some that Hope Drew Brees dies in some horrible way. People lost their damn minds up in her

That’s pathetic and stupid. I personally haven’t seen that but I’m not surprised
Posted by Shameless
Member since Jan 2017
831 posts
Posted on 9/15/20 at 9:15 am to
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They can’t stop posting on a message board, you think they have the restraint to not watch


This . The only ones I know personally who are “boycotting” are the casuals who don’t know any players after Drew Brees...
Posted by LSUFanHouston
NOLA
Member since Jul 2009
37162 posts
Posted on 9/15/20 at 12:27 pm to
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Maybe, just maybe, it was attributed to 70,000 that typically watch in the dome that were at home watching and the bars in Nola weren't open for gather in mass so they were watching at homoe. Of course more tv sets are going to be tuned in.


But but but so many "season ticket holders" on this board said they weren't watching this season. Those are the 70,000, right?
Posted by LSUFanHouston
NOLA
Member since Jul 2009
37162 posts
Posted on 9/15/20 at 12:28 pm to
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Was the Saints game a national broadcasted game? Wasn't it a regional game? The ratings don't count every TV that is tuned but samples households inside regions then extrapolates over populations. 33 percent rise in the Tampa market and the rise in the nola market helped more than you think. The additional 10,000s in each region boosted the overall numbers big time. Most likely disproportionately.


yeah, and the ratings are compared to national games in prior years. What's your point?
Posted by LSUFanHouston
NOLA
Member since Jul 2009
37162 posts
Posted on 9/15/20 at 12:30 pm to
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Look at merchandise sales and gambling if you want to judge the effects of any boycott. TV ratings are unlikely to properly capture it.


"Moving the goalposts" has never been a more relevant term...
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