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Chase Made the Right Call; Shelvin is Making a Mistake
Posted on 8/31/20 at 7:00 pm
Posted on 8/31/20 at 7:00 pm
Ultimately, everyone has to make a decision that they can live with. Shelvin ultimately has to do what is in his best interests and he is the one that has to live with it. But that being said, he's a quasi-public figure and news worthy so there is nothing wrong with raising an eyebrow around his decision to opt out, so long as done so without besmirching his character.
With that background, Chase's decision makes logical sense. By all indications, he is a top 5, top 10 at worst pick in the draft. He's a national champion, a Bilentnikoff winner, a Tiger legend. Playing is truly unlikely to increase his draft spot or his earnings.
With Shelvin, he is a national champion. But he is a projected third rounder. He isn't a third rounder because of his talent. It's because of his inconsistency. If he comes in and has a monster year, he could play his way into the "frick you money" of the first round.
Moreover, Tyler's biggest issue has been his ability to stay in shape. Now he is going to opt out. So instead of being answerable to Coach O and Bo Pelini, he will be answerable to a personal trainer who he is paying. That's an obvious concern and a risk.
Lastly, we have been able to differentiate Chase from Dylan Moses, Devonta Smith, Alex Leatherwood, etc. because he is much more of a sure thing. But all of those guys are surer things and will be drafted ahead of Tyler Shelvin.
So, in short, love Tyler, but he is making an error here. He is going the path of Ed Alexander, Trev Faulk, Tharold Simon, Malachi Dupre, Sam Montgomery...
You hate to see it.
With that background, Chase's decision makes logical sense. By all indications, he is a top 5, top 10 at worst pick in the draft. He's a national champion, a Bilentnikoff winner, a Tiger legend. Playing is truly unlikely to increase his draft spot or his earnings.
With Shelvin, he is a national champion. But he is a projected third rounder. He isn't a third rounder because of his talent. It's because of his inconsistency. If he comes in and has a monster year, he could play his way into the "frick you money" of the first round.
Moreover, Tyler's biggest issue has been his ability to stay in shape. Now he is going to opt out. So instead of being answerable to Coach O and Bo Pelini, he will be answerable to a personal trainer who he is paying. That's an obvious concern and a risk.
Lastly, we have been able to differentiate Chase from Dylan Moses, Devonta Smith, Alex Leatherwood, etc. because he is much more of a sure thing. But all of those guys are surer things and will be drafted ahead of Tyler Shelvin.
So, in short, love Tyler, but he is making an error here. He is going the path of Ed Alexander, Trev Faulk, Tharold Simon, Malachi Dupre, Sam Montgomery...
You hate to see it.
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Posted on 8/31/20 at 7:02 pm to ROPO
Chase made the right call by quitting on his team? If you have kids I hope you don’t teach them that way of thinking.
Posted on 8/31/20 at 7:05 pm to ROPO
With Shelvin’s weight, I can understand his fear of Covid. He’s morbidly obese. He’s likely much safer with the team than the general public though.
This post was edited on 8/31/20 at 7:12 pm
Posted on 8/31/20 at 7:09 pm to ROPO
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With that background, Chase's decision makes logical sense. By all indications, he is a top 5, top 10 at worst pick in the draft. He's a national champion, a Bilentnikoff winner, a Tiger legend. Playing is truly unlikely to increase his draft spot or his earnings.
Derek Stingley Jr could say the same thing. ...
Posted on 8/31/20 at 7:11 pm to ROPO
Shelving still has something to prove.
Posted on 8/31/20 at 7:14 pm to ROPO
Shelvin will end up like Johnathan Sullivan but even fatter
Posted on 8/31/20 at 7:14 pm to ROPO
Both madethe right call because it was their call to make.
Posted on 8/31/20 at 7:15 pm to ROPO
No way a decision to quit on your teammates can be considered the right decision
Posted on 8/31/20 at 7:15 pm to ROPO
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Devonta Smith
dont agree here. He or Waddle are the 2-3 WRs off the board after Chase without a doubt
Moses and Leatherwood can move up to top 10 with good years.
SHelvin is making a mistake that could end up costing him millions
Posted on 8/31/20 at 7:24 pm to ROPO
Both are quitters. Not hard to understand.
Posted on 8/31/20 at 8:16 pm to ROPO
Serious question because I haven’t read all 3,000 pages of the Shelvin threads - is it confirmed that he is signing with an agent and plans to enter the draft in 2021?
I ask because he would have at least one year of eligibility remaining. Two years if the NCAA is adding a year for players who opt out (I’m not certain what they’ve announced on this). Given that he was a draft-eligible RS sophomore last year and chose to come back, is it at all possible that he comes back for the 2021 season?
I realize it may not be likely, especially if he spends the next 6 months not playing football and thinking about the money he can make in the draft. But you could make the argument that if COVID is his true concern, it would make sense to come back and improve his draft stock.
I ask because he would have at least one year of eligibility remaining. Two years if the NCAA is adding a year for players who opt out (I’m not certain what they’ve announced on this). Given that he was a draft-eligible RS sophomore last year and chose to come back, is it at all possible that he comes back for the 2021 season?
I realize it may not be likely, especially if he spends the next 6 months not playing football and thinking about the money he can make in the draft. But you could make the argument that if COVID is his true concern, it would make sense to come back and improve his draft stock.
Posted on 8/31/20 at 8:50 pm to ROPO
My only problem with Chase is the statements and the timing. He and his family came out and said he was 110% playing and all that shite and he pulls out this far into camp.
I understand his decision, the timing and circumstances are kinda sketch though.
Shelvin is a big wtf. He was the definition of "good season and good combine and he'll skyrocket". Hope it works out for him though.
I understand his decision, the timing and circumstances are kinda sketch though.
Shelvin is a big wtf. He was the definition of "good season and good combine and he'll skyrocket". Hope it works out for him though.
This post was edited on 8/31/20 at 8:51 pm
Posted on 8/31/20 at 9:28 pm to ROPO
If both young men opted out over C19 concerns, then I would believe Chase made the wrong decision and Shelvin made the correct one. Of course that’s based solely on what we’ve been told in regards to a persons weight and how difficult the virus can be to shake.
Hate to see them go.
Hate to see them go.
Posted on 8/31/20 at 9:48 pm to ROPO
I don’t know what makes him 3rd string. Latest projections have him as the #1 or # 2 DT in the next draft. He is also far from inconsistent.
Posted on 9/1/20 at 1:02 am to ROPO
They both made the right call when you don't really have a call to make.
Posted on 9/2/20 at 8:10 am to ROPO
Shelvin may be a huge bust...
Posted on 9/2/20 at 8:41 am to ROPO
I hate to say it but when the news on Shelvin hit my first reaction was who in the hell is gonna be on that young man to keep his weight down. It seems he was having this problem when he was with the program. I hope he can figure it out now that he is gone. I know he will be training but it's just not the same
Posted on 9/2/20 at 10:32 am to ROPO
My read on Shelvin is that he’s taking the path of least resistance.
He isn’t concerned with putting in the work to be great. He just wants to collect that check and he’ll check out. Let that be a Warning to nfl teams.
He isn’t concerned with putting in the work to be great. He just wants to collect that check and he’ll check out. Let that be a Warning to nfl teams.
Posted on 9/3/20 at 2:55 pm to ROPO
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Moreover, Tyler's biggest issue has been his ability to stay in shape. Now he is going to opt out. So instead of being answerable to Coach O and Bo Pelini, he will be answerable to a personal trainer who he is paying. That's an obvious concern and a risk.
If Tyler couldn't get in shape before the season, then he did the right thing by opting out and taking a full year to shape up.
Posted on 9/3/20 at 3:03 pm to ROPO
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Moreover, Tyler's biggest issue has been his ability to stay in shape. Now he is going to opt out. So instead of being answerable to Coach O and Bo Pelini, he will be answerable to a personal trainer who he is paying. That's an obvious concern and a risk.
Yep, he goes from a coaching staff riding him and holding him accountable to him being solely accountable for himself. If he doesn't want to train one day, he doesn't have to. No one is going to punish him or get on to him. And he has 8 months to go until the draft. If he already showed up to fall camp at 375 after having 4-5 months off since spring practice ended, that doesn't bode well for him showing up to the combine where he needs to be.
This post was edited on 9/3/20 at 3:04 pm
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