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So, is Johnny Lawrence the bad guy in Cobra Kai or no?

Posted on 8/31/20 at 2:13 pm
Posted by finchmeister08
Member since Mar 2011
35800 posts
Posted on 8/31/20 at 2:13 pm
It was pretty apparent that after Johnny lost to Daniel in The Karate Kid, Johnny had respect for Daniel. He handed him the trophy after all.

However, for Johnny, you can tell the loss affected his life. He’s trying to make up for it by rebuilding the Cobra Kai brand (kinda).

Yeah, he can be a dick at times, and his view of the altercations he had with Daniel in the past are skewed, but is he essentially the bad guy in this series?

I’ve only watched the first season. Waiting for the wife to finish it before moving on to season 2.
Posted by Woolfman_8
Old Metairie
Member since Oct 2018
2072 posts
Posted on 8/31/20 at 2:19 pm to
I’m on episode 8 of season 1. I don’t see a clear bad guy. I think they both have their point of view of what happened and it impacts them differently
Posted by TheFonz
Somewhere in Louisiana
Member since Jul 2016
20468 posts
Posted on 8/31/20 at 2:20 pm to
I only saw the first three episodes when they first came out for free on YouTube. LaRusso came across a bit of a douche weasel. Does he redeem himself as the series goes on? Now that it is on Netflix I may have to give it a go.
This post was edited on 8/31/20 at 5:25 pm
Posted by Vood
Enjoying a Forty with Lando
Member since Dec 2007
8341 posts
Posted on 8/31/20 at 2:20 pm to
No he is not the bad guy. Cobra Kai(The Series) is the redemption story of Johnny Lawrence. Season 2 wasn't as good as season 1 due to the story lines it uses, but the last 2 episodes are amazing.
Posted by SaintEB
Member since Jul 2008
22785 posts
Posted on 8/31/20 at 2:26 pm to
Daniel is definitely a big ole douche in season 1. They are equal douche in season 2.
Posted by saintsfan22
baton rouge
Member since May 2006
71793 posts
Posted on 8/31/20 at 2:38 pm to
quote:

It was pretty apparent that after Johnny lost to Daniel in The Karate Kid, Johnny had respect for Daniel. He handed him the trophy after all.


Honestly that never made sense to me. You kinda get that he had some respect when he didn't want to sweep the leg but he was not remorseful about doing it. Also, Johnny elbowed his knee all on his own like 30 seconds before he's handing him the trophy. If he had respect for him he probably wouldn't have done the elbow. Felt like handing him the trophy that was tacked on to redeem the villains more than making sense character-wise.
Posted by blueboy
Member since Apr 2006
56457 posts
Posted on 8/31/20 at 2:41 pm to
He's the good guy, but Daniel is not the bad guy, imo. They're just 2 guys with pros and cons who are in conflict with each other.

At first, I thought it was stupid that Johnny's whole life was poisoned by that one event, but now I think it had a lot more to do with his marriage to a party whore. The fight was just the spark that led to Johnny's life of bad choices.
Posted by Dr RC
The Money Pit
Member since Aug 2011
58128 posts
Posted on 8/31/20 at 2:47 pm to
Daniel is the bad guy always and forever.
Posted by lsuwontonwrap
Member since Aug 2012
34147 posts
Posted on 8/31/20 at 2:50 pm to
That's one reason I like this show. It flips, depending on the moment. I think Johnny is still the "bad guy", but Daniel is a d-bag, at times. Daniel's life worked out and you can tell he thinks he's hot shite. At least Johnny is trying to make something of himself.
Posted by CajunTiger_225
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2015
9203 posts
Posted on 8/31/20 at 4:10 pm to
Everytime I try to watch this show something just feels off about it. Cant put my finger on it but at the same time it's too distracting to keep watching.
Posted by rich4pres
Knoxville
Member since Dec 2016
9832 posts
Posted on 8/31/20 at 4:11 pm to
Johnny has never been the bad guy.
Posted by SEClint
New Orleans, LA/Portland, OR
Member since Nov 2006
48769 posts
Posted on 8/31/20 at 4:42 pm to
No

He's just bad at making the right decisions. Had miyagi been in his life, instead of John..he probably would have turned out better.

I wouldn't like daniel either if I were him. Or anyone else
Posted by cssamerican
Member since Mar 2011
7136 posts
Posted on 8/31/20 at 6:35 pm to
Johnny’s character is so much more interesting than Daniel’s. Maybe because he enjoys being a badass and telling his students not to be pussies, while at the same time he is trying to teach the kids to be a better person than he was at their age.
Posted by BabyTac
Austin, TX
Member since Jun 2008
12273 posts
Posted on 8/31/20 at 8:40 pm to
Ive never met anyone who’s drink of choice is Coors Banquet that I didn’t immediately get along with.
Posted by arcalades
USA
Member since Feb 2014
19276 posts
Posted on 8/31/20 at 8:58 pm to
Johnny was clearly the bad guy in Karate Kid. Daniel was a bit of a jerk, but Johnny was older and should have been more mature. Can't shove a younger guy down the side of a hill while he's riding his bike or beat the crap out of him 4 to 1.

However, the creators of Cobra Kai said they wanted to explorer the idea that there isn't always a good or bad guy, it's mostly gray area. So there's not exactly a bad guy in Cobra Kai, but obviously that doesn't work well for tv, so they had to add someone.
Posted by SammyTiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2009
66847 posts
Posted on 9/1/20 at 9:15 pm to
I aN pretty sure Daniel’s son is the bad guy.
Posted by KingofthePoint
Member since Feb 2009
10141 posts
Posted on 9/1/20 at 10:41 pm to
I really hope they don’t treat the Johnny/Daniel relationship the way Suits did Harvey/Louis. That roller coaster got old after a while.
Posted by LetsgoGamecocks
Member since Sep 2014
2916 posts
Posted on 9/2/20 at 8:35 am to
When does season 3 come out?
Posted by kingbob
Sorrento, LA
Member since Nov 2010
67212 posts
Posted on 9/2/20 at 12:43 pm to
The true villain is D-man. He constantly provoked conflicts and then played the victim whenever he met comeuppance for his cowardly actions. These actions sent Hawk on his spiral that had Moon dump him, motivating the sacking of Miyagi Dojo. Then, just when the Cobra Kai and Miyagi Do kids were all coming together as friends and Hawk was starting to learn some humility to mellow out and relax, he pores gasoline on the fire and restarts the karate war that boils over the next week at school.

Robby and Samantha especially also share some culpability, but Demetrie is the true villain of the series.
Posted by BARNEYSTINSON
Member since Oct 2011
773 posts
Posted on 9/3/20 at 1:55 am to
I have been saying for years, Daniel is definitely the villain. Johnny, was trying to mind his own business; when Daniel inserted himself in to someone else’s private life.
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