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re: Aircraft carrier captain to be removed from duty
Posted on 4/2/20 at 6:18 pm to Homesick Tiger
Posted on 4/2/20 at 6:18 pm to Homesick Tiger
Valid point.
Posted on 4/2/20 at 6:18 pm to FredBear
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The only people who would want a ship captain to whine to the media when things get tight would be liberals and their such insufferable fricks no sane person would want to serve with them.
Good riddance to a coward
Yeah twitter is crying about this like a bunch of pussies.
This post was edited on 4/2/20 at 6:31 pm
Posted on 4/2/20 at 6:20 pm to OleWar
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The fact that I don't see any classified markings on the document puts the onus on the Captain. That letter should at least been classified Secret
Should've been sent through SIPR
Posted on 4/2/20 at 6:30 pm to IceTiger
It also seems like weird correspondence. There is no "To" or "Distro" - Is this a Naval thing. Here is the letter I saw.
LINK
ETA: Maybe he also got canned for not properly formatting the letter.
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ETA: Maybe he also got canned for not properly formatting the letter.
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“To:” Line
a. General. Address all correspondence to the activity head of an activity. Include the
office code or person’s title that will act on your letter in parentheses, if known. If the office
code is composed of only numbers, add the word “Code” before the numbers. Do not add the
word “Code” before an office code that starts with a letter (e.g., “N” or “SUP”). Because
frequent turnover in personnel can result in misrouted mail, avoid using the name of an
individual in the “To:” line. You may use the complete mailing address and ZIP+4 code if you
want the address for a record. If you will be using a window envelope, follow figure 7-3.
b. Format. Type “To:” at the left margin on the first line under the “From:” line (do not
skip a line). Six spaces follow the colon.
This post was edited on 4/2/20 at 6:40 pm
Posted on 4/2/20 at 6:50 pm to 13SaintTiger
No, but now the whole world know that one of our 11 aircraft carriers that are used to maintain naval power in areas around the world is in a state of flux. Had the information not been leaked no one would be the wiser while we offloaded sailors and and the ship was well below optimal readiness.
Posted on 4/2/20 at 6:57 pm to TopFlightSecurity
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The captain of an aircraft carrier struggling with a coronavirus outbreak has been relieved from command after a letter he penned pleading for help leaked to the media.
“Today at my direction the commanding officer of the USS Theodore Roosevelt, Capt. Brett Crozier was relieved of command,” acting Navy Secretary Thomas Modly announced Thursday at a Pentagon briefing.
“I have no doubt in my mind that Capt. Crozier did what he thought was in the best interest of the safety and well being of his crew. Unfortunately it did the opposite,” Modly added, saying it panicked families of sailors on board and gave information about the ship’s capabilities to America’s adversaries. “In my judgment, relieving him of command was in the best interest of the United States Navy and the nation in this time when the nation needs the Navy to be strong and confident in the face of adversity.”
Modly said there was no pressure from the White House to fire Crozier and that Defense Secretary Mark Esper supported the decision.
In a brief statement alongside Modly, Chief of Naval Operations Adm. Michael Gilday said he supported Modly’s decision.
“Make no mistake, nobody cares more about our sailors and those aboard the Theodore Roosevelt than our leadership in the Navy,” Gilday said. “Our sailors deserve the best leadership that we can absolutely provide.”
Crozier wrote a letter to Navy leaders that was obtained and published by the San Francisco Chronicle on Tuesday, in which he warned of dire consequences if most of the sailors on Roosevelt aren’t evacuated.
Modly, who noted the Chronicle is the captain’s hometown paper, said he does not know if Crozier is the one who leaked it, but that he sent the letter to dozens of people and therefore didn’t do his responsibility to ensure it wasn’t leaked.
“It was copied to 20 or 30 other people. That's just not acceptable. He did not take care and what that did is it created a little bit of a panic on the ship,” Modly said. “And at the same time, the families here in the United States were panicked about the reality.”
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Posted on 4/2/20 at 7:02 pm to cajunangelle
oh no! the flu on board.
Posted on 4/2/20 at 7:02 pm to SirWinston
what exactly have you done for your country you soft AF typewriter pounder.
Posted on 4/2/20 at 7:09 pm to DougsMugs
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I am guess he was the source of the leak. But, this is speculation.
no it isnt, all communications, official, routine, and even private is recorded and kept for safe keeping
any messages in or out from any naval ship has more documented records then the NSA does on trump and its a simple mater to check emails and online data to know exactly who sent that OMB SJW pussified message
Posted on 4/2/20 at 7:09 pm to SirWinston
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Had a navy vessel commandeered by Iran several years back and all sailers were held hostage and gunpoint like cucks.
If you think the story you got on that incident is the truth of what happened you are mistaken.
Posted on 4/2/20 at 7:11 pm to Jbird
Everyone realizes that there's an Admiral on the ship with the CO right?
This dude went around a fricking 1 star to release some bullshite letter.
Lucky he isnt in the brig.
This dude went around a fricking 1 star to release some bullshite letter.
Lucky he isnt in the brig.
Posted on 4/2/20 at 7:14 pm to TigerCruise
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Everyone realizes that there's an Admiral on the ship with the CO right?
This dude went around a fricking 1 star to release some bullshite letter.
Lucky he isnt in the brig.
I just read that somewhere and can't find it. The Carrier Strike Group Commander was on the ship with him and he didn't communicate to him.
Posted on 4/2/20 at 7:15 pm to OleWar
And people wonder why he was fired
Posted on 4/2/20 at 7:15 pm to TigerCruise
see the article a few posts above. the letter was CCed to 20-30 people and leaked to the skippers hometown newspaper.
how many call me Lt. Col. Vindmans are there in all branches?
how many call me Lt. Col. Vindmans are there in all branches?
Posted on 4/2/20 at 7:25 pm to TigerCruise
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Everyone realizes that there's an Admiral on the ship with the CO right? This dude went around a fricking 1 star to release some bullshite letter. Lucky he isnt in the brig.
Don't get caught taking a shortcut through the Admiral's passageways on a carrier. Take the long way around, avoid the arse chewing.
Posted on 4/2/20 at 7:34 pm to cajunangelle
I served under three administrations, Clinton, Bush and Obama. Everyone was obviously supposed to be non-partisan, but you could tell in conversations, who went to church,what people did socially, that the Officer Corps in the Army leaned pretty heavy to the right, even under Clinton.
Then in 2008, things changed fast with Obama's election. And it wasn't just new officers, more senior officers than me seemed giddy about the prospects.
It almost seemed like there was a shite load of Manchurian candidates. Everyone had received all the kinder gentler training as mandated, but I don't remember anyone liking it.
I'm sure the Iraq War had an influence.
But then at like the drop of the hat it was embraced as mantra, by many, not all but many. I don't know how much it swung back under Trump, but the numbers of those who would undermine this administration is scary to imagine.
Then in 2008, things changed fast with Obama's election. And it wasn't just new officers, more senior officers than me seemed giddy about the prospects.
It almost seemed like there was a shite load of Manchurian candidates. Everyone had received all the kinder gentler training as mandated, but I don't remember anyone liking it.
I'm sure the Iraq War had an influence.
But then at like the drop of the hat it was embraced as mantra, by many, not all but many. I don't know how much it swung back under Trump, but the numbers of those who would undermine this administration is scary to imagine.
Posted on 4/2/20 at 7:36 pm to 13SaintTiger
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Now imagine it’s 2020 and not 1940. That memo does not give detailed information about our naval readinessp
One might assume your mind functions with the same "readiness" as your spelling.
What an ignorant statement, you should be embarrassed.
Posted on 4/2/20 at 7:38 pm to cokebottleag
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Imagine a captain of a carrier in 1940 leaking something that gives the enemy detailed information about our naval readiness.
In addition to by-passing the chain of command.
In addition to intentionally embarrassing the chain of command by the act of bypassing them.
I truly don't believe he thought he would keep his job. Anyone outside of the Navy that thought so doesn't know the Navy and has never worked within a military chain of command.
Posted on 4/2/20 at 7:38 pm to idlewatcher
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ircraft carrier captain to be removed from duty by idlewatcher
But this board told us he was to be commended for his actions!
This Navy vet never said that
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