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re: Like to hear the libertarian reaction to Trump's handling of Iran...
Posted on 1/8/20 at 1:53 pm to troyt37
Posted on 1/8/20 at 1:53 pm to troyt37
just tune into tucker tonight
he will explain their position
hmm, i wonder if he will apologize to trump for running with the dimm narrative and talking points as well
he will explain their position
hmm, i wonder if he will apologize to trump for running with the dimm narrative and talking points as well
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Posted on 1/8/20 at 1:53 pm to upgrayedd
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I think there's an unrealistic expectation from conservatives that libertarians should agree with them all the time.
Well, of course.
Posted on 1/8/20 at 1:55 pm to Zach
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Posted on 1/8/20 at 1:55 pm to keakar
TUCKER ISNT A LIBERTARIAN HE IS A PALEOCON. For the thousandth fricking time
Posted on 1/8/20 at 1:55 pm to hawkeye007
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that's because libertarians tend to call out conservatives for not being conservative.
I agree with that too. I think it's good,albeit annoying, to have them around even if its just for that reason.
Posted on 1/8/20 at 1:55 pm to upgrayedd
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I think there's an unrealistic expectation from conservatives that libertarians should agree with them all the time.
This ^
Lock-step members of any party (includes Republicans, Libertarians and Democrats) are idiots and sheep.
Posted on 1/8/20 at 1:57 pm to upgrayedd
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The hate for libertarians and libertarian-leaning people here is weird
90% of Americans hate liberty.
Posted on 1/8/20 at 1:58 pm to LSU Patrick
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I found that I agreed with a lot of it in principle but had a hard time applying it to the real word in a few areas. I imagine that's a lot like what the founding father experienced when they were building this country.
You're right. It's very hard to apply to the real world. Especially because of a deep underlying philosophy of "I don't give a shite." This is why the Libertarian conventions have been 99% male.
How many times do you hear policies that will raise taxes to cure 'X' problem and the pitch is "If it will save the life of one child it's worth it."
That appeals to women. Libertarians would say "I don't give a shite about one child. Let his own damn parents take care of his arse."
The founders were definitely libertarian leaning in their unique distrust of govt. and collectivism.
Posted on 1/8/20 at 1:59 pm to SCLibertarian
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90% of Americans hate liberty.
I don't think they hate it, I think they're scared of it. Humans like to be in control and our brains are wired for a certain degree of order.
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Posted on 1/8/20 at 1:59 pm to CFFreak
You'd be hard pressed to find any lock step republicans, especially among politicians. That's part of the frustration. With all the bickering over details, the conservative agenda rarely ever moves forward. Folks who identify as libertarian often end up passively hindering the conservative agenda and aiding the progressive agenda.
Posted on 1/8/20 at 2:00 pm to troyt37
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Or, consider it a place to publicly admit that the libertarian sky screaming, waiting on Nancy Pelosi to give her blessing (while more Americans are killed or maimed) was in fact bullshite, and stupid.
Objective political discussion on the Poli Board!
Posted on 1/8/20 at 2:00 pm to Zach
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Real libertarians (and there are very few) oppose open borders. The philosophy is very consistent. America is relatively free.
Proposition: 'Do you support 100 million people crossing the border into the US to establish Communism and destroy all freedom?'
Open Border Libertarian: 'Uh, well, I guess not.'
Then you are not for open borders, moron.
Open Border Libertarian: 'Oh, I guess you're right. Thanks, Zach.'
Real libertarians understand that the only borders that exist are property boundaries, and that your own property boundaries are the limit of where you can dictate that other human beings travel. You have no right to dictate who your neighbor can allow on his property.
Real libertarians have no problem with some other group of people setting up their own communist commune, so long as all members do so voluntarily, are allowed to leave voluntarily, and that they do not violate anyone’s rights.
Real libertarians oppose all aggression, which is the initiation of nonconsensual force. This includes theft/taxation and forced monopolies, which are common in government.
Posted on 1/8/20 at 2:01 pm to HubbaBubba
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For the sake of argument, you should be intelligent enough to understand that the government can't release back channel information without harm coming to someone or tipping over the Apple cart of budding diplomacy.
unless you're accused of improper behavior (like the transcripts)
Posted on 1/8/20 at 2:01 pm to troyt37
The groypers are all outraged and sharing memes showing Trump going down on Bibi
Posted on 1/8/20 at 2:01 pm to Caplewood
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How do you stop them without violating the NAP
Tell me what NAP is and I'll explain it.
Posted on 1/8/20 at 2:01 pm to troyt37
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Iran with Trump as President has a snowball's chance in hell of becoming another Iraq under Bush or Obama.
yeah OK. he will just create super ISIS and allow that to be his legacy.
Posted on 1/8/20 at 2:02 pm to efrad
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Here we go again with Zack defining libertarianism as whatever he wants.
Define it yourself then. We're waiting.
Posted on 1/8/20 at 2:03 pm to SCLibertarian
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90% of Americans hate liberty.
I would split that:
45% hate it.
45% are scared to death of it.
Posted on 1/8/20 at 2:05 pm to Zach
Libertarians do not support classifying undocumented immigrants as criminals. Our current immigration system is an embarrassment. People who would like to follow the legal procedures are unable to because these procedures are so complex and expensive and lengthy. If Americans want immigrants to enter through legal channels, we need to make those channels fair, reasonable, and accessible.
Straight from the Libertarian Party website .
Libertarian Party : "frick our countries rules , LEGAL immigration is "complex , expensive and lengthy" .
Love open borders
Straight from the Libertarian Party website .
Libertarian Party : "frick our countries rules , LEGAL immigration is "complex , expensive and lengthy" .
Love open borders
Posted on 1/8/20 at 2:05 pm to LSU Patrick
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