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re: Like to hear the libertarian reaction to Trump's handling of Iran...
Posted on 1/8/20 at 2:07 pm to troyt37
Posted on 1/8/20 at 2:07 pm to troyt37
We should not be in the ME.
But if you are there, and you get attacked (embassy), you attack back (Sauron the Dark Lord)
His reaction to the Iranian "retaliation" is exactly right.
But if you are there, and you get attacked (embassy), you attack back (Sauron the Dark Lord)
His reaction to the Iranian "retaliation" is exactly right.
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Posted on 1/8/20 at 2:07 pm to 93and99
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LEGAL immigration is "complex , expensive and lengthy" .
are you saying this is incorrect?
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Libertarian Party : "frick our countries rules
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If Americans want immigrants to enter through legal channels, we need to make those channels fair, reasonable, and accessible.
accurate quotation
Posted on 1/8/20 at 2:09 pm to TigerWhatIR
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Real libertarians oppose all aggression, which is the initiation of nonconsensual force. This includes theft/taxation and forced monopolies, which are common in government.
'Oppose = aggressive force'. IE, if Germany said in 1940 to England 'We have a million tourists who would like to come and live in your country. They are gun enthusiasts.'
If England did not give consent then England has to use aggressive attacks against Germany to stop the invasion.
Posted on 1/8/20 at 2:09 pm to 93and99
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Libertarians do not support classifying undocumented immigrants as criminals. Our current immigration system is an embarrassment. People who would like to follow the legal procedures are unable to because these procedures are so complex and expensive and lengthy. If Americans want immigrants to enter through legal channels, we need to make those channels fair, reasonable, and accessible.
I agree and disagree with that premise.
I'm sure the party likely opposes the welfare programs that attract these illegals a well.
Posted on 1/8/20 at 2:09 pm to efrad
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And if you visit left-leaning websites and social media and ask what they think of libertarians, they will say, "Folks who identify as libertarian often end up passively hindering the progressive agenda and aiding the conservative agenda."
Which party do you think is more radical and lock step at this time in history, the republican party or the democrat party?
This post was edited on 1/8/20 at 2:10 pm
Posted on 1/8/20 at 2:10 pm to SlowFlowPro
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are you saying this is incorrect?
So what ?
Life isn't easy.
You and people like you need to support these people.
Why should I be forced to ?
Posted on 1/8/20 at 2:11 pm to 93and99
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Straight from the Libertarian Party website .
You're not reading my posts. LP is a lost cause. Has been since Browne died. Want to try again?
Posted on 1/8/20 at 2:11 pm to CFFreak
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Lock-step members of any party (includes Republicans, Libertarians and Democrats) are idiots and sheep.
Thank goodness President Trump doesn't strictly adhere to any political mold or agenda. He is like no other President I can remember in my lifetime. And I honestly believe he is doing what he believes is in the best interest of our country.
Posted on 1/8/20 at 2:11 pm to 93and99
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Why should I be forced to ?
How libertarian of you
Posted on 1/8/20 at 2:11 pm to Zach
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Tell me what NAP is and I'll explain it.
I thought you had “read the books”This post was edited on 1/8/20 at 2:14 pm
Posted on 1/8/20 at 2:12 pm to 93and99
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Straight from the Libertarian Party website .
The Libertarian Party is a joke.
Libertarian does not equal libertarian.
Posted on 1/8/20 at 2:12 pm to troyt37
I am for the most part an Internal Libertarian secured by an External Statist. I want an iron fist out there securing my fluffy white freedom in here.
Posted on 1/8/20 at 2:14 pm to 93and99
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Life isn't easy.
You and people like you need to support these people.
Why should I be forced to ?
how is saying "we need to make a more rational and less complex layer of government" saying "i like these people" (whoever "they" are)?
Posted on 1/8/20 at 2:14 pm to Zach
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This post was edited on 1/11/21 at 1:53 am
Posted on 1/8/20 at 2:14 pm to 93and99
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Libertarians do not support classifying undocumented immigrants as criminals. Our current immigration system is an embarrassment. People who would like to follow the legal procedures are unable to because these procedures are so complex and expensive and lengthy. If Americans want immigrants to enter through legal channels, we need to make those channels fair, reasonable, and accessible.
All of this is correct.
Libertarians understand that you can't run a welfare state and have unfettered immigration. So, all the Libertarians I know support shutting down the welfare state (free education, assisted housing, food stamps, emergency healthcare requirement, etc, etc) while making it easier for people to come here and work/pay taxes. A free economy is the unhindered exchange of services, goods, and labor.
Posted on 1/8/20 at 2:16 pm to SLafourche07
Libertarian here and I'm disgusted with the party after the last election. Libertarians are Republicans that understand economics
Posted on 1/8/20 at 2:16 pm to Zach
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'Oppose = aggressive force'. IE, if Germany said in 1940 to England 'We have a million tourists who would like to come and live in your country. They are gun enthusiasts.'
If England did not give consent then England has to use aggressive attacks against Germany to stop the invasion.
Was there something in my comment specifically that you think is wrong? If so, point it out.
In your hypothetical scenario, who is “England” to begin with? Is it an individual property owner? You have no right to dictate who he allows on his property.
Posted on 1/8/20 at 2:16 pm to Pdubntrub
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Libertarian here and I'm disgusted with the party after the last election.
Gary Johnson is a buffoon
Posted on 1/8/20 at 2:18 pm to efrad
The problem with NAP is that perception can be a funny thing with human beings.
Posted on 1/8/20 at 2:19 pm to Caplewood
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I thought you had “read the books”
Why didn't you answer the question? Afraid?
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