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Posted on 1/8/20 at 2:20 pm to Caplewood
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That and the support of open borders, the worshipping of corporations, and the promotion of rampant degeneracy
Why do you think libertarians worship corporations?
Posted on 1/8/20 at 2:20 pm to troyt37
Trump was right in attacking the guy that planed and oversaw the attacks on US property.
However there should not have been any US property or soldiers there to attack to begin with. Having assets and people there will always create problems for us.
He may very well have an opening here to get us out. Perhaps he can cut a deal quickly with Iran to withdraw if they give up the bomb.
Frankly I think he should withdraw from the entire ME whether the Iranians give up the 80 years old bomb technology or not. It is naive to think we can keep something like that away from them
GET US OUT OF THE ME!!
However there should not have been any US property or soldiers there to attack to begin with. Having assets and people there will always create problems for us.
He may very well have an opening here to get us out. Perhaps he can cut a deal quickly with Iran to withdraw if they give up the bomb.
Frankly I think he should withdraw from the entire ME whether the Iranians give up the 80 years old bomb technology or not. It is naive to think we can keep something like that away from them
GET US OUT OF THE ME!!
Posted on 1/8/20 at 2:21 pm to Zach
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You're not reading my posts. LP is a lost cause. Has been since Browne died. Want to try again?
Why would I want to be a part of political party that openly condones breaking our rules ?
Is a person who says they are a libertarian but doesn't agree with a party platform that costs taxpayers billions per year , really a libertarian or a paleoconservative ?
Posted on 1/8/20 at 2:21 pm to Y.A. Tittle
yeah for the record I'm not a L-libertarian and most "libertarian" groups would call me a neo con/fascist
but the biggest "libertarian" issue with this Iran mess is Iraq vol. 3. anyone who pretends like that wasn't a possibility are either warmongers or lying to themselves. any conflict in that petro heaven/shithole is a recipe for another Iraq/Libya
but the biggest "libertarian" issue with this Iran mess is Iraq vol. 3. anyone who pretends like that wasn't a possibility are either warmongers or lying to themselves. any conflict in that petro heaven/shithole is a recipe for another Iraq/Libya
Posted on 1/8/20 at 2:22 pm to efrad
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I defined it for you months ago, explaining NAP as the core of libertarianism.
I don't read 90% of the posts on this board and I don't recall any conversation with you. Why don't you define it again?
Posted on 1/8/20 at 2:22 pm to I B Freeman
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He may very well have an opening here to get us out. Perhaps he can cut a deal quickly with Iran to withdraw if they give up the bomb.
Posted on 1/8/20 at 2:22 pm to Zach
Posted on 1/8/20 at 2:22 pm to Zach
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Posted on 1/8/20 at 2:22 pm to Powerman
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Why do you think libertarians worship corporations?
i honestly am not familiar with this line of right-leaning argument, other than issues with tech companies
if not corporations, then...what? governmental regulations?
Posted on 1/8/20 at 2:24 pm to SlowFlowPro
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how is saying "we need to make a more rational and less complex layer of government" saying "i like these people" (whoever "they" are)?
Seal the border first.
You numbnuts don't even want to do that.
Posted on 1/8/20 at 2:24 pm to TigerWhatIR
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In your hypothetical scenario, who is “England” to begin with? Is it an individual property owner? You have no right to dictate who he allows on his property.
England is a nation state that protects freedom of its inhabitants. Libertarians have no problem with the protection of liberty. Violence to protect is just fine.
Posted on 1/8/20 at 2:24 pm to troyt37
Hopefully this whole episode has destroyed what little credibility Rand Paul had left.
Posted on 1/8/20 at 2:25 pm to 93and99
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Why would I want to be a part of political party that openly condones breaking our rules ?
Our rights do not originate from politicians. Government laws are nothing more than the opinions of politicians that are enforced with violence from badged mercenaries. Many of government laws throughout history SHOULD be ignored/broken. Need some examples?
Posted on 1/8/20 at 2:25 pm to 93and99
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Seal the border first.
if your policy is to "seal the border" then even you agree that our immigration policy/laws need change.
Posted on 1/8/20 at 2:26 pm to Rock the Casbah
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Hopefully this whole episode has destroyed what little credibility Rand Paul had left.
Yeah, God forbid the R's have a person reminding them of what they claim are their core principles
Posted on 1/8/20 at 2:27 pm to 93and99
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Why would I want to be a part of political party that openly condones breaking our rules ?
You shouldn't.
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Is a person who says they are a libertarian but doesn't agree with a party platform that costs taxpayers billions per year , really a libertarian or a paleoconservative ?
This is what you've been missing. Big 'L' is a mess. Little 'l' is a philosophy that goes back a long way and an idea that will always exist. It's why people in Hong Kong are rioting.
Posted on 1/8/20 at 2:28 pm to Aubie Spr96
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So, all the Libertarians I know support shutting down the welfare state (free education, assisted housing, food stamps, emergency healthcare requirement, etc, etc) while making it easier for people to come here and work/pay taxes.
So, stated more clearly, Libertarians support the democrat agenda of open borders, making it easier for criminal aliens to come here and stay here, while paying lip service to the conservative agenda of having a physical barrier between the citizens and the foreign invaders.
Posted on 1/8/20 at 2:29 pm to Rock the Casbah
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Hopefully this whole episode has destroyed what little credibility Rand Paul had left.
And I'd love to see what credible Republican establishment cretins you've voted for your whole life.
Posted on 1/8/20 at 2:31 pm to efrad
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Browne was pro open borders, pro immigration
In 2001 Browne was concerned with intervention of govt policy over private business interests. What Browne did not live to see was that immigrants started coming to get on the govt dole. Not to work but to get food stamps, welfare, etc. He would have opposed open borders today.
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