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Are food banks "enablers" of drug addicts??

Posted on 12/26/19 at 7:07 am
Posted by I B Freeman
Member since Oct 2009
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Posted on 12/26/19 at 7:07 am
I am told the only way to really get an addict to reform is make them stand completely on their own. You cannot enable their life style in any way.

Fist off do you think that is true?

Secondly does that mean food banks are enablers? How does anyone other than an absolute druggie do without food given the vast welfare available to the poor? Are most of the customers of food banks druggies?

I have traditionally contributed to my local food bank but if feeding these drug addicts is keeping them from taking care to themselves on their own am I doing the right thing?

No question in my mind that most homeless are addicts of one kind or another.
This post was edited on 12/26/19 at 7:08 am
Posted by Prosecuted Collins
The Farm
Member since Sep 2003
6628 posts
Posted on 12/26/19 at 7:08 am to
Very Christlike, sir!
Posted by Eli Goldfinger
Member since Sep 2016
32785 posts
Posted on 12/26/19 at 7:09 am to
Yes
Posted by I B Freeman
Member since Oct 2009
27843 posts
Posted on 12/26/19 at 7:10 am to
If forcing a person to take care of themselves is better for them then is that wrong?

If the choice is food or dope will they eventually quit dope?

If the choice is plenty of free food and spend money on dope will they ever quit?
Posted by Boatshoes
Member since Dec 2017
6775 posts
Posted on 12/26/19 at 7:11 am to
The fact that criminals can abuse charitable institutions says more about our legal system than it does about Charity. How many lepers returned to thank the Lord when they were healed?
Posted by PrivatePublic
Member since Nov 2012
17848 posts
Posted on 12/26/19 at 7:11 am to
Unpopular opinion: 99.9% of charity is enabling.
Posted by whit
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2010
10999 posts
Posted on 12/26/19 at 7:12 am to
Everybody gotta eat baw.
Posted by I B Freeman
Member since Oct 2009
27843 posts
Posted on 12/26/19 at 7:13 am to
I like the policies of the Salvation Army.

They make people find some money for their room and board. Do some work some where to stay there any length of time.

I know of families that have drug addicts in the family that will do anything to get more dope and they still house and feed them. Would they be doing the addict a favor to cut him off?
This post was edited on 12/26/19 at 7:14 am
Posted by tigerinthebueche
Member since Oct 2010
36791 posts
Posted on 12/26/19 at 7:14 am to
quote:


Fist off do you think that is true?


My own personal experience with a drug addict (my sister) showed me nothing YOU do will help them get clean or change their lifestyle. That only happens when they personally decide it’s time to change. So I don’t see how providing food is enabling them.
That said, you may be enabling others who aren’t drug addicts.

But if the biblical imperative is to be charitable, then that is why you give. Regardless of the unintended consequences.
Posted by RedStickRambler
Member since Sep 2019
62 posts
Posted on 12/26/19 at 7:17 am to
Isaiah 58:10

If you pour yourself out for the hungry and satisfy the desire of the afflicted, then you a stupid arse MFer.
Posted by JoePepitone
Waffle House #1494
Member since Feb 2014
10615 posts
Posted on 12/26/19 at 7:17 am to
A local restaurant provides free meals on Christmas Day. Local TV reporter interviewed a 10 +/- year old waiting in line for his meal. Young lad said “I opened up my Chrimmus this morning and then came down here to eat. Wish they would hurry up and get it ready.”
Posted by I B Freeman
Member since Oct 2009
27843 posts
Posted on 12/26/19 at 7:18 am to
quote:

My own personal experience with a drug addict (my sister) showed me nothing YOU do will help them get clean or change their lifestyle.


Do you have a responsibility to keep your sister from hurting the rest of the family? of burdening the rest of the family?

quote:

But if the biblical imperative is to be charitable,


I know that is the common belief but did Christ ever help a healthy individual with charity?? I am not sure of an example and am simply asking.
Posted by tigerinthebueche
Member since Oct 2010
36791 posts
Posted on 12/26/19 at 7:19 am to
quote:

Would they be doing the addict a favor to cut him off?



My father threw my sister out of the house when she was 16. She remained a drug addict until she was 28. Then, by the grace of God, she got clean, is happily married, and is now the mother of a beautiful 24 year old daughter and living in San Antonio. See My first reply. I don’t think anything will help the true addict till they decide its time to change their ways.
Posted by fr33manator
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2010
124571 posts
Posted on 12/26/19 at 7:20 am to
They enable people to clean out their pantries
Posted by tigerinthebueche
Member since Oct 2010
36791 posts
Posted on 12/26/19 at 7:23 am to
quote:

Do you have a responsibility to keep your sister from hurting the rest of the family? of burdening the rest of the family?


Of course. But I can protect my family and still be charitable.


Did Christ help the healthy? Well he died on the cross to save all of us so I’d say , yes his charity was limitless
Posted by Oilfieldbiology
Member since Nov 2016
37582 posts
Posted on 12/26/19 at 7:25 am to
quote:

If the choice is food or dope will they eventually quit dope?


No
Posted by Fat and Happy
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2013
17062 posts
Posted on 12/26/19 at 7:27 am to
Not gonna lie, i have bought several homes guys a beer this holiday season. Figured when i got to the gas station and i was getting some beer, might as well let them enjoy in the festivities too.

Everyone is gonna wanna drink a cold beer
Posted by tidalmouse
Whatsamotta U.
Member since Jan 2009
30706 posts
Posted on 12/26/19 at 7:31 am to
I'm for feeding anyone that's hungry.

There's too much food in this Country for anyone to hunger.

I'm not a fan of the aggressive panhandlers on all the on and off ramps around B'ham.

I'm 100% for public Lunch Rooms.Food Banks.New Coats for kids.
Posted by Oilfieldbiology
Member since Nov 2016
37582 posts
Posted on 12/26/19 at 7:32 am to
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I'm not a fan of the aggressive panhandlers on all the on and off ramps around fricking Everywhere!!!!


Fixed it. It’s absolutely annoying
Posted by BobABooey
Parts Unknown
Member since Oct 2004
14317 posts
Posted on 12/26/19 at 7:34 am to
I have the same thoughts about the annual school backpack and school supplies giveaways. People rely on those now and they aren’t being taught self-reliance or strategies on how to be able to afford their own backpack next year.

They should run those things like a timeshare seminar. Yeah, you get the free vacation but you have to sit through a sales pitch first.
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