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re: Are food banks "enablers" of drug addicts??
Posted on 12/26/19 at 10:36 am to I B Freeman
Posted on 12/26/19 at 10:36 am to I B Freeman
There is no feast at the food bank.
You donate items and they disburse them through partner organizations like shelters and kitchens.
And you're talking about people that will subsist on whatever they can put in their stomachs. Denial of charity won't stop them.
You donate items and they disburse them through partner organizations like shelters and kitchens.
And you're talking about people that will subsist on whatever they can put in their stomachs. Denial of charity won't stop them.
Posted on 12/26/19 at 10:37 am to I B Freeman
I believe most food bank stuff goes to the elderly.
Posted on 12/26/19 at 10:40 am to PearlJam
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Don't think that is true, so the rest of your post is meaningless.
For many it is absolutely true. Addicts will feed their monster as long as they're able in most cases.
I'd rather have food banks than SNAP.
Posted on 12/26/19 at 10:41 am to I B Freeman
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the choice is food or dope will they eventually quit dope?
Either that or die. Either way society wins
Posted on 12/26/19 at 10:41 am to I B Freeman
Well I’m not sure about that, but Medicaid and Healthy Louisiana are pretty much enablers of them. It’s sad the amount of repeat patients there are in the program.
Just like every other Medicaid patient, you can treat them but you can’t make them responsible for their own health.
Just like every other Medicaid patient, you can treat them but you can’t make them responsible for their own health.
Posted on 12/26/19 at 10:47 am to fallguy_1978
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I briefly made less than that right out of college. Something like 24-25k. I was able to make it work but I can live pretty cheap if I need to. Granted this was 20 years ago so things like rent were cheaper.
Right. So add 20 years of inflation and 2 kids to take care of
Posted on 12/26/19 at 10:48 am to I B Freeman
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I know of families that have drug addicts in the family that will do anything to get more dope and they still house and feed them. Would they be doing the addict a favor to cut him off?
They might get clean or they might spiral further downward. Tough choice and I dont envy any family that has to make it.
Posted on 12/26/19 at 10:52 am to tigerinthebueche
quote:pics?
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Posted on 12/26/19 at 10:58 am to I B Freeman
"They" don't sound like they have a very stout problem solving arsenal if it's full of "only way"s. That's some Bed-Rock shite there.
Posted on 12/26/19 at 11:31 am to I B Freeman
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Should families be like that too?
Do you know what it is like to turn a family member out like that? Do you know the level of guilt and stress that it places on a family....the level of guilt , the sleepless nights, the worry? Yes, obstensebly it has to be done, but doing it is gut wrenching...try putting your child out on the street like that
My aunt did it to my cousin. The despair that woman and my uncle went through was profound. Not knowing if they were alive or dead or where they were? It was not until my brother found him 3 years later ....ironically less than a mile from his mother's house did he start getting clean. He was panhandling . He walked up to my brother's car, my brother recognized him and my brother stopped the car walked up to him and told him to get in. Spent 7 months in rehab....cost me and him over 100K with no guarantees
Posted on 12/26/19 at 11:35 am to I B Freeman
Better than having assholes accost me at every intersection and hitting me up constantly while walking around the CBD.
Posted on 12/26/19 at 12:03 pm to RogerTheShrubber
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believe most food bank stuff goes to the elderly.
Food banks are merely the collector and distributor for a certain area. Everything they collect are either given or “sold” to food pantries. Pantries can be set up to distribute to every at need person in the city / county, or could be more specialized to only include kids in school, veterans, elderly, etc.
Posted on 12/26/19 at 12:09 pm to I B Freeman
LINK
People genuinely interested in figuring out why people are so physically and mentally addicted to substances that have been used in many forms throughout history without the same level of reaction should watch this.
Also, not all homeless people are drug addicts, the majority of them are not.
This website shows figures from 2017 LINK
People genuinely interested in figuring out why people are so physically and mentally addicted to substances that have been used in many forms throughout history without the same level of reaction should watch this.
Also, not all homeless people are drug addicts, the majority of them are not.
This website shows figures from 2017 LINK
Posted on 12/26/19 at 3:30 pm to NIH
quote:I always thought the "pure conservative" view was to limit government welfare programs and encourage private charity. I think this guy is going a little further than pure conservatism.
He’s an autistic pure “conservative”
People like him are insufferable
As to his question, my church operates a food bank. The vast majority who come through are elderly people and mothers with children. I'm sure there are addicts that come through but we don't have the funds or manpower to screen everyone and I doubt we would bother even if we did.
What is your solution, op? Shut down completely and punish all the others so we can show a few junkies 'tough love'? Throw out the baby with the bathwater?
And FYI: homeless junkies and homeless in general usually have limited use for food banks. Most of the donations (minus canned goods) are things that require preparation and/or refrigeration. They are more likely to eat at soup kitchens, IME.
Posted on 12/26/19 at 3:43 pm to I B Freeman
When my mom was Pres. of a local BR charity who delivered food to the poor, they often got their food from the local food bank. I don't think everyone we brought food to were druggies. Most were also on welfare, had a lot of kids and were destitute. It was another means of supplementing. Looking back, the kids suffered for their parent's lack of education, lack of care, just lack of everything.
Posted on 12/26/19 at 3:58 pm to I B Freeman
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If the choice is food or dope will they eventually quit dope?
No
Posted on 12/26/19 at 4:24 pm to I B Freeman
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I am told the only way to really get an addict to reform is make them stand completely on their own.
I think the first mistake is thinking that a single "method" will solve every addict's problems. Perhaps there are some people that really need to be cut off. But once one is an addict... do they have enough self-control to do that?
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No question in my mind that most homeless are addicts of one kind or another.
I think most of them suffer from mental illness. I am sure more than a few are also on drugs.
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