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Kiffin to Ark may not e good move for him- per McElroy and Kannel

Posted on 12/3/19 at 9:30 am
Posted by Covingtontiger77
Member since Dec 2015
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Posted on 12/3/19 at 9:30 am
Said it’s a no brainer for Arkansas.


However they said for Freshwater not so much.

Key points
- he would be entering the west and recruiting against all of the others
- roster is so depleted that it would take years to get to respectability


They concluded:

that if it drags on for another day or so it would be because Fresh is digging deep into the current state of the program and seeing its to far gone for him to tackle.

- he’s got a good thing going at FAU and if he can just keep it going a better opportunity would ultimately present itself.

-They ended with, if I’m Kiffin i would want some strong, very strong contract language that Arkansas is going to give me a LOOOONNNGGG LEASH because the program is so bad that it will take years and years to rebuild to respectability. Aka guaranteed 8-10 year full salary ala Jimbo at ATM
Posted by 1999
Where I be
Member since Oct 2009
29249 posts
Posted on 12/3/19 at 9:40 am to
McElroy also said chad Morris needed More time.
Posted by Hawgeye
tFlagship Brothel
Member since Jun 2009
31106 posts
Posted on 12/3/19 at 9:48 am to
frick Greg McElroy. That dumbass was hammering Arkansas last week for firing Chad Morris and now he has the audacity to say the “program is too far gone” or some bullshite?

fricking hope he gets mouth warts and grows into a wart infested Shrek and never works another day in his life in broadcasting. Tool.
Posted by moneyg
Member since Jun 2006
56945 posts
Posted on 12/3/19 at 9:50 am to
quote:

guaranteed 8-10 year full salary ala Jimbo at ATM
Posted by deaux
Member since Oct 2018
20267 posts
Posted on 12/3/19 at 9:53 am to
I’m surprised kiffin’s name hasn’t come up with FSU
Posted by fillmoregandt
OTM
Member since Nov 2009
14368 posts
Posted on 12/3/19 at 9:57 am to
Arkansas is going to end up with Leach
Posted by truthbetold
Member since Aug 2008
7632 posts
Posted on 12/3/19 at 10:00 am to
If I'm Joey F I pass on this one. They are in a massive hole.

Keep slamming OT 7 cougars in Boca and wait it out.
Posted by TigerintheNO
New Orleans
Member since Jan 2004
41299 posts
Posted on 12/3/19 at 10:03 am to
CBSSports(Dennid Dodd) said something similar in relation to the Ole Miss job. The Ole Miss roster is head and shoulders above Arkansas.

quote:

Lane Kiffin, FAU coach:

I'm starting to think that when/if Kiffin makes the jump back up to the big time, it's got to be a perfect situation. Ole Miss is not that. And does Kiffin want to go against his old boss (Nick Saban) each year? At last check, Kiffin was more than happy in Boca Raton with sunshine and a luxury home in South Florida.
Posted by Porcine Human
Fayetteville, Arkansas
Member since Feb 2016
11228 posts
Posted on 12/3/19 at 10:06 am to
McElroy can frick off
Posted by YumYum Sauce
Arkansas
Member since Nov 2010
8343 posts
Posted on 12/3/19 at 10:10 am to
SEC West is a tough league. Full story at 5


These guys get paid to point out what we discuss here for free.
Posted by tjv305
Member since May 2015
12522 posts
Posted on 12/3/19 at 10:13 am to
Of course it better for Arkansas then Kiffin. Arkansas need to hire Gus so Auburn can Hire Kiffin. Kiffin at Auburn would be a blast for everyone but Saban.
Posted by PorkSammich
North FL
Member since Sep 2013
14335 posts
Posted on 12/3/19 at 10:21 am to
McElroy is better at playing with balls than talking about it.
Posted by NikolaiJakov
Moscow
Member since Mar 2014
2803 posts
Posted on 12/3/19 at 10:29 am to
I don't think it's as far gone as they believe. I just think they've been incredibly horribly coached the last two years.

It's not a complete rebuild, maybe a 2 year project.
Posted by Cornelius
1800s
Member since Aug 2012
1050 posts
Posted on 12/3/19 at 10:30 am to
quote:

the program is so bad that it will take years and years to rebuild to respectability.

Any decent coach would have won 6-7 games at Arkansas this year.
Posted by Jon Ham
Member since Jun 2011
28692 posts
Posted on 12/3/19 at 10:44 am to
We would have given Morris plenty of time to build his team if HE didn’t suck arse. He literally gave us every single reason to fire him and not a single reason to keep him. We had 4 games against non-P5 schools this year. Had we won those 4 games, or 3 of those games plus 1 SEC game, he’d still be our coach. Not only could he not do that, he managed to lose to both San Jose St and his former QB who he ran off came back and whooped his arse. He was hired for his offense but he made every single QB WORSE! And there were a lot of them.

At Arkansas, as long as you give us any sign of progress, you will be given time to build. After that, if you average 8.5 wins a year and keep your losses at least somewhat respectable, the job is yours for a long time. Unlike AU, Bama, or LSU where even if you average 10 wins you are on the hot seat if you aren’t winning championships.

Arkansas has great facilities and support, the biggest (only) show in the state, enough access to talent to put together a championship run every few years but not with super high expectations, and the opportunity to do something no one has ever done at Arkansas - win a SEC Championship. Whichever coach wins us a SEC Championship will go on our Mt Rushmore. Winning a SEC championship at any of the Big 6 schools, it’s like “that’s nice, but whoopty do.”
Posted by rolltide32
Fort Payne, AL
Member since Nov 2013
6516 posts
Posted on 12/3/19 at 10:52 am to
After defending Chad Morris McElroy went on to suggest Arkansas should hire Ken Niumatalolo and run the triple option
Posted by sand mountainDvalues
Member since Oct 2018
8718 posts
Posted on 12/3/19 at 10:55 am to
quote:

Key points - he would be entering the west and recruiting against all of the others


IMO, these are the conditions Kiffin would thrive in. Stack the deck against him and watch him thrive
Posted by rebelrouser
Columbia, SC
Member since Feb 2013
10794 posts
Posted on 12/3/19 at 11:42 am to
he was 5-7 last year at FAU.
Posted by AlwysATgr
Member since Apr 2008
16660 posts
Posted on 12/3/19 at 12:57 pm to
Some are really downplaying Arky's potential. No, Arky doesn't have the natural recruiting footprint some of their rivals do.

But they reach all over TX and they can siphon off a lot of the LA leftovers. That's more than enough to be competitive.

And they have great facilities and fan support.
Posted by Macintosh504
Leveraging Salaries University
Member since Sep 2011
52719 posts
Posted on 12/3/19 at 1:13 pm to
So it’s actually probably the greatest move for kiffin
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