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re: Some people are upset about Tulane's fake kneel
Posted on 9/20/19 at 11:04 am to Ingeniero
Posted on 9/20/19 at 11:04 am to Ingeniero
This will be unpopular, but I see where critics are coming from. They lined up in a victory formation, and it is an unwritten rule to not blow that up.
I've seen fights over defenses hitting blockers in the victory formation. That's a bad spot for Houston. If they play normally and it's a kneel, they'll be looked at as a-holes. If it's a running play, they're off guard.
I've seen fights over defenses hitting blockers in the victory formation. That's a bad spot for Houston. If they play normally and it's a kneel, they'll be looked at as a-holes. If it's a running play, they're off guard.
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Posted on 9/20/19 at 11:05 am to Ingeniero
As others have brought up. There are two major factors here that people shouldn't get butthurt about.
1. The game was tied. You need to be ready for anything. I guess it's technically called the "Victory" formation, but they weren't lining up to kneel to win.
2. They never faked the kneel. That would be bush league, but they didn't do that.
1. The game was tied. You need to be ready for anything. I guess it's technically called the "Victory" formation, but they weren't lining up to kneel to win.
2. They never faked the kneel. That would be bush league, but they didn't do that.
This post was edited on 9/20/19 at 11:06 am
Posted on 9/20/19 at 11:07 am to 21JumpStreet
I don't see much difference in this than I do in Houston's up-tempo offense forcing Tulane to use 2 TOs early in the fourth quarter. Find a weakness or flaw of your opponent, then exploit. It's a fricking competitive sport.
Posted on 9/20/19 at 11:07 am to DestrehanTiger
Where did they fake a kneel?
Posted on 9/20/19 at 11:09 am to Rep520
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unwritten rule
I get they are mad, but unwritten rules arent rules. I constantly hate on baseball for their stupid unwritten rules because they are dumb. This is a stupid unwritten rule as well.
They were tied. Why on earth would Tulane not try to win the game?
Not really directed at you rep520, just in general.
Posted on 9/20/19 at 11:10 am to Ingeniero
We're supposed to be lectured on ethics by fans of a program that gave us Briles, Sumlin and Herman?
Yeah...maybe you would have won if you didn't quit and decide to have a dance party after your QB set a record nobody cares about in the 2nd quarter.
Yeah...maybe you would have won if you didn't quit and decide to have a dance party after your QB set a record nobody cares about in the 2nd quarter.
Posted on 9/20/19 at 11:10 am to Ingeniero
How many of these upset people bet on Houston?
Posted on 9/20/19 at 11:14 am to Ingeniero
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More assorted tweets like that but generally the same sentiment. They're just being salty, right? Don't stop playing until the clock says 0:00. Obviously if they're kneeling while up 3 TDs then don't blow their line up, but this was different.
The objection, as I understand it, is it uses the opponent's sense of fair play against them. While I understand that, I don't necessarily agree. Tulane didn't score on that play. If Houston makes a play on the pass, it ends up just being a curiosity.
Posted on 9/20/19 at 11:15 am to Chucktown_Badger
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Absolutely no reason to get mad at Tulane. Their coach has some huge marbles and it paid off.
there was not much risk, but there was plenty of upside.
if the play works, they do what they wound up doing.
if the runner gets tackled, its no different from a kneel, and it goes to OT.
only risk is if the runner fumbles and HOU kicks a FG to win.
Posted on 9/20/19 at 11:18 am to WicKed WayZ
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Where did they fake a kneel?
They didn't but that is a bit hypertechnical. Tulane lined up in the victory formation. They were intending to make Houston think they were kneeling.
Again, I think it is valid to do that, and I like the call. While I think faking a kneel down after the snap would be chintzy and was not done, I think it has to be acknowledged that Tulane's intention was to give the impression they were kneeling. Otherwise, why get in the Victory formation? Why not get in the flexbone or single wing?
This post was edited on 9/20/19 at 11:19 am
Posted on 9/20/19 at 11:23 am to Ingeniero
It wasn't a situation in which you take a knee. It was a tie game, with a timeout, with time on the clock and good field position. Defense needs to be more aware.
Posted on 9/20/19 at 11:25 am to Ingeniero
I kinda agree. I have no problem with the play as long as they have no problem with a team going 100% against it until the whistle blows
Posted on 9/20/19 at 11:28 am to Ingeniero
Why would Tulane take a knee there? It makes no sense you have to be looking for stuff like that in that situation
Posted on 9/20/19 at 11:29 am to Ingeniero
you play to win the games
Posted on 9/20/19 at 11:32 am to choupiquesushi
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The HC or Qb informs the wing official or the white hat that they will go into victory and take a knee.... the wing officials pinch in from their sideline position and the U and R also pinch in.. .. the fact that they were all in their normal locations.. was glaring that TU was running a play. the UH players bit on the fake..
Great information, here.
Posted on 9/20/19 at 11:33 am to Pelican fan99
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Why would Tulane take a knee there? It makes no sense you have to be looking for stuff like that in that situation
This. Tulane was able to move the ball the whole second half. Im sure everyone watching at the time was saying exactly that. UH defense should have been watching for it
This post was edited on 9/20/19 at 11:34 am
Posted on 9/20/19 at 11:35 am to Pelican fan99
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Why would Tulane take a knee there? It makes no sense you have to be looking for stuff like that in that situation
To eliminate the risk of a TO in their own territory and go to overtime.
It's not uncommon for people to do that, especially at home. They were inside their own 30, so a fumble would have automatically put Houston in game winning FG position.
Posted on 9/20/19 at 11:36 am to Ingeniero
That’s on Houston’s coaches for their defense not being on guard when the score was tied, regardless of formation.
You can’t just assume they’re kneeling and going to OT.
Also, “fake knee” is misleading, since it was really a variation of the fumblerooskie.
You can’t just assume they’re kneeling and going to OT.
Also, “fake knee” is misleading, since it was really a variation of the fumblerooskie.
This post was edited on 9/20/19 at 11:40 am
Posted on 9/20/19 at 11:44 am to Ingeniero
The real lesson to be learned here is that coaches are usually stupid to just kneel the ball out and accepting going into overtime.
They are so scared of making a mistake they are robbing their team of an opportunity to win in regulation.
Most of the time your chances of scoring are higher than making a mistake.
They are so scared of making a mistake they are robbing their team of an opportunity to win in regulation.
Most of the time your chances of scoring are higher than making a mistake.
Posted on 9/20/19 at 11:45 am to Ingeniero
Meh, this situation is in the same vein as "protect yourself at all times" in boxing. Don't drop your gloves and this won't happen. Can't rely on "unwritten rules." And the game was tied.
This post was edited on 9/20/19 at 11:46 am
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