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Texas Hold'em Question: How Do You Adjust When Playing With Chasers?
Posted on 8/9/19 at 1:26 pm
Posted on 8/9/19 at 1:26 pm
If you are at a table, playing a cash game and there is a habitual chaser on the table, do you adjust your game? Do you start to play more conservative than normal?
Has anyone been in that situation? You are at a table and there is a guy who sees at least 75% of the flops.. After the turn he is a card away from hitting a flush, straight, full house... whatever.. And that particular night he wins 2 or 3 big pots then will start raising before the flop.. And you know he would do it with no matter what cards are in his hand?
Does that throw your game off?
Has anyone been in that situation? You are at a table and there is a guy who sees at least 75% of the flops.. After the turn he is a card away from hitting a flush, straight, full house... whatever.. And that particular night he wins 2 or 3 big pots then will start raising before the flop.. And you know he would do it with no matter what cards are in his hand?
Does that throw your game off?
Posted on 8/9/19 at 1:28 pm to OweO
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If you are at a table, playing a cash game and there is a habitual chaser on the table, do you adjust your game? Do you start to play more conservative than normal?
Has anyone been in that situation? You are at a table and there is a guy who sees at least 75% of the flops.. After the turn he is a card away from hitting a flush, straight, full house... whatever.. And that particular night he wins 2 or 3 big pots then will start raising before the flop.. And you know he would do it with no matter what cards are in his hand?
Does that throw your game off?
No, I say thank you lord for your gift today and play my normal style. Yeah, he's going to suck out on a couple, but if your betting structure is sound, you should be able to absorb those hits knowing over time he's going to call off all his chips to you.
Posted on 8/9/19 at 1:28 pm to OweO
I'll be honest, I let that get to me a few weeks ago. I would have off suit AQ, he would minimum raise and I would fold .
Posted on 8/9/19 at 1:28 pm to OweO
You gotta know:
1) when to hold'em
2) when to fold'em
3) when to walk away
4) when to run
Also, never count your money at the table.
Good luck!
1) when to hold'em
2) when to fold'em
3) when to walk away
4) when to run
Also, never count your money at the table.
Good luck!
Posted on 8/9/19 at 1:29 pm to OweO
It’s hard to play a guy like that because he could have anything.
I play conservative, and stay patient. When in position, he can build you s big pot. You just need a good hand.
I play conservative, and stay patient. When in position, he can build you s big pot. You just need a good hand.
Posted on 8/9/19 at 1:30 pm to OweO
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I would have off suit AQ, he would minimum raise and I would fold .
Posted on 8/9/19 at 1:30 pm to navy
quote:
You gotta know:
1) when to hold'em
2) when to fold'em
3) when to walk away
4) when to run
#4 is tough for OP
Posted on 8/9/19 at 1:30 pm to navy
quote:
You gotta know:
1) when to hold'em
2) when to fold'em
3) when to walk away
4) when to run
Sounds like OweO is pretty fricked then
Posted on 8/9/19 at 1:31 pm to Motorboat
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#4 is tough for OP
Hell _#3 is impossible
Posted on 8/9/19 at 1:32 pm to OweO
Never bluff and make them pay to chase. Be aware that they're going to draw out on you now and then. Just smile, knock the table and say "Nice hand".
Posted on 8/9/19 at 1:33 pm to OweO
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I would have off suit AQ, he would minimum raise and I would fold
so you suck a poker, got it
Posted on 8/9/19 at 1:36 pm to OweO
Play it cool, like cool hand Luke... kick a buck!
Posted on 8/9/19 at 1:37 pm to OweO
Value bet extremely thin, even when the board is scary. Their range is so wide they can have any piece of it. You'll end up value-owning yourself a good bit, but you'll print money long term. Pay very close attention when they actually get aggressive. Your pair is probably beat. Shovel money in when you've got a strong hand. Dont fall victim to middling your bet size to try and squeeze value from their weak holdings. You want to bloat the pot with 2 pair plus.
Posted on 8/9/19 at 1:38 pm to fr33manator
quote:
You gotta know:
1) when to hold'em
2) when to fold'em
3) when to walk away
4) when to run
quote:
Sounds like OweO is pretty fricked then
quote:
#4 is tough for OP
quote:
Hell _#3 is impossible
Posted on 8/9/19 at 1:38 pm to EarlyCuyler3
Also, if he starts raising often and wide pre, then start 3b'ing him with your value hands and isolate him.
Posted on 8/9/19 at 1:39 pm to OweO
chris, you call a loose player more than you'd call a tight player.
you folded AQ to a loose player that raises 75% of hands? LOL. no, you raise him with AQ. in fact, you raise him with A9. and when you're not raising him pre-flop, you're raising him with second pair or 4 to a flush.
stop playing scared.
you folded AQ to a loose player that raises 75% of hands? LOL. no, you raise him with AQ. in fact, you raise him with A9. and when you're not raising him pre-flop, you're raising him with second pair or 4 to a flush.
stop playing scared.
Posted on 8/9/19 at 1:41 pm to link
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chris, you call a loose player more than you'd call a tight player.
you folded AQ to a loose player that raises 75% of hands? LOL. no, you raise him with AQ. in fact, you raise him with A9. and when you're not raising him pre-flop, you're raising him with second pair or 4 to a flush.
stop playing scared.
I was about to post almost this exact thing.
Except I didn't know anything about it. And I don't play cards.
Posted on 8/9/19 at 1:41 pm to OweO
You WANT that guy at your table! That’s how you make money! Big egos from guys that watch the pros play. I saw similar behavior back in the late 90’s when online players started migrating to live games. Math doesn’t lie. Know your odds. He WILL draw out on you occasionally, but in the end, he will lose more than he wins. You set that guy up by disguising your hand with betting patterns. For instance, I will raise proportionately by figures related to blind amounts and show the hand a time or two. This is the setup. When your position is right, your cards are right...you either go ABOVE or limp....just the two of you and in position? Limp it, not like he’s not going to call you anyways....if you hit the flop, bet hard! He will call or re raise you. You’ve placed HIM into a raise or fold situation. You are in control of the hand. If he rivers you, smile knowing that he is just holding those chips till you get a monster. The shift to suited connectors or any two cards and playing the players (not calling with 40/60 hands) is what he is banking on. Just keep folding until you get the right hand. Too many people try to play too many hands. I love playing with those guys. It’s a marathon, not a sprint!
Posted on 8/9/19 at 1:46 pm to OptionRight
As the OP stated as well, combatting aggression with aggression is fine, as long as you have the redraw on a semi bluff. Odds of making a flush on the river are not great, odds of a player calling your BIG BET on the turn, if he doesn’t have a nut hand are fairly low. IF he does call you, you have the low percentage redraw to hedge your bet but you have to be willing to fire another bullet on the river if you miss
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