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re: Texas Hold'em Question: How Do You Adjust When Playing With Chasers?

Posted on 8/9/19 at 3:04 pm to
Posted by Ed Osteen
Member since Oct 2007
57529 posts
Posted on 8/9/19 at 3:04 pm to
Do they have to pull out a chair when you get to the table or do you just hug the end corner?
Posted by Thib-a-doe Tiger
Member since Nov 2012
35460 posts
Posted on 8/9/19 at 3:07 pm to
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Obviously I am not a pro.. But I don't suck. For whatever reason, just seeing how reckless the guy was playing, its was if I was waiting for a high pair then play him on the odds. Or at least have a decide pair and see if I get a 3 of a kind of the flop or something.



You do suck. With AQ you should have been ready to call an all in against someone like that
Posted by TSLG
Member since Mar 2014
6724 posts
Posted on 8/9/19 at 3:12 pm to
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I am glad its not as popular. You don't have all these jokers who play online and watch it on TV then go to a table as if they are the king of poker.

And this isn't a story about a "bad beat". It is about a playing strategy.


This right here, in addition to other posts, just let's the good card players know that you're a weak amateur.

What poker player on the planet wouldn't want to go back 15 years? The action was amazing, and everybody played like the 5 handed final table that they saw on espn.

Quit over betting your monsters, newb.
This post was edited on 8/9/19 at 3:13 pm
Posted by CelticDog
Member since Apr 2015
42867 posts
Posted on 8/9/19 at 3:18 pm to
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He was the first to really analyze poker mathematically.


nah.

Unless really means use a time machine.
Posted by Thib-a-doe Tiger
Member since Nov 2012
35460 posts
Posted on 8/9/19 at 3:21 pm to
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People watched Rounders and think its ALL about reading people and bluffing them.




Sounds like the kind of players who fold AQ to a loose player
Posted by X123F45
Member since Apr 2015
27489 posts
Posted on 8/9/19 at 3:30 pm to
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shite, 5x would get 4-5 callers in the games I played in. Try like 10-15x. That might narrow it down to 2 caller.s


When playing bogues, with say 5/10 blinds, 50 for every flop will shut them down.

Hell even in super low money games at the camp, if you're talking 50 cent/dollar blinds, 5 dollar bets shut people down quick.

I'm not allowed to play at the camp anymore :lol. I just dip bourbon and watch kids lose money
Posted by IonaTiger
The Commonwealth Of Virginia
Member since Mar 2006
33053 posts
Posted on 8/9/19 at 3:30 pm to
All right, here's the thing. You only play premium hands.

You only start with jacks or better split, nines or better wired, three high cards to a flush.

If it's good enough to call, you gotta be in there raising, all right?

I mean, tight, but aggressive. And I do mean aggressive.

I mean, you gotta... you gotta think of it as a war.

Put a guy like me in a game like that, the cards don't even matter.

I'll play it blind.
Posted by 9Fiddy
19th Hole
Member since Jan 2007
64159 posts
Posted on 8/9/19 at 3:31 pm to
Posted by X123F45
Member since Apr 2015
27489 posts
Posted on 8/9/19 at 4:13 pm to
I wish another movie like that would come out.

Posted by EarlyCuyler3
Appalachia
Member since Nov 2017
27290 posts
Posted on 8/9/19 at 4:19 pm to
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You do suck. With AQ you should have been ready to call an all in against someone like that


That's highly situational. Unless he's the extreme gamble guy who knows he's going to lose anyway and decides to tilt it off before he can lose it later, that's probably not optimal. Those guys are rare.

I would easily 3b this hand and try to get it HU. CB'ing almost 100% of flops, always if I'm HU. Barreling a lot of turns. Probably giving up on the river unless improved, because he's calling almost 100% there if he already called 2 barrels. Unless just a ton of stuff missed. 3 barrels are hard to pull off at low stakes. Too many stations.
Posted by 9Fiddy
19th Hole
Member since Jan 2007
64159 posts
Posted on 8/9/19 at 4:22 pm to
Besides a movie, we also need a big name known outside the world of poker (Ivey, Hellmuth, Negreanu, etc) to win the main event.

Those guys would cause a ratings bump and get the casual fan out to a casino table for sure.


ETA: Or OweO could open a poker school. Then there would be a continuous stream of bad players.
This post was edited on 8/9/19 at 4:24 pm
Posted by Thib-a-doe Tiger
Member since Nov 2012
35460 posts
Posted on 8/9/19 at 4:25 pm to
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That's highly situational. Unless he's the extreme gamble guy who knows he's going to lose anyway and decides to tilt it off before he can lose it later, that's probably not optimal. Those guys are rare.



Well he was getting pushed around by a loose player. Pushing would have been a better option than folding. Calling a push would be tough with that hand if off suit, by I still make that call 100% of the time against a guy like that


Now somebody who knows what they’re doing? Depends. I’m not really a sit there and chip away type player unless everyone is playing tight
Posted by fr33manator
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2010
124583 posts
Posted on 8/9/19 at 4:36 pm to
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I'd send you home broke at a poker table.



Chris, you come to the table broken
Posted by Grassy1
Member since Oct 2009
6258 posts
Posted on 8/9/19 at 4:37 pm to
As if youve ever sat a table with anything other than a laptop
Posted by GRTiger
On a roof eating alligator pie
Member since Dec 2008
63225 posts
Posted on 8/9/19 at 5:16 pm to
Maybe poker just isn't your game.

Posted by tokenBoiler
Lafayette, Indiana
Member since Aug 2012
4430 posts
Posted on 8/10/19 at 2:43 pm to
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And this isn't a story about a "bad beat". It is about a playing strategy.
We know you're working up to it.
Posted by wasteland
City of peace
Member since Apr 2011
5606 posts
Posted on 8/10/19 at 4:14 pm to
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chris, you call a loose player more than you'd call a tight player.

you folded AQ to a loose player that raises 75% of hands? LOL. no, you raise him with AQ. in fact, you raise him with A9. and when you're not raising him pre-flop, you're raising him with second pair or 4 to a flush.

stop playing scared.




You do realize he just learned a term in poker and doesn't actually play, right? I don't see how anyone believes anything he says or why he's here. Its just one lie and after another
Posted by Tiger Roux
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
4939 posts
Posted on 8/10/19 at 4:44 pm to
Got beat last night on two big hands guy betting big all the way through, caught straight on the river.I had 3 kings.
Next betting big I had 2 pair he caught 3rd jack on river.

It is gambling, although some may disagree.
Posted by Pecker
Rocky Top
Member since May 2015
16674 posts
Posted on 8/10/19 at 5:04 pm to
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You are at a table and there is a guy who sees at least 75% of the flops

And that particular night he wins 2 or 3 big pots then will start raising before the flop


If he's playing 75% of hands from all positions, and you're playing 1/4 of your hands overall, then you have a significant range advantage. So play your range aggressively. If you know he's overbetting post-flop and constantly c-betting, then hit him with some check raises and let the pot build. You don't want to play draws against a guy like that though. But you don't have to because you can get tons of value from a guy like that with your made hands.
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