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looks like a push to change the limit on spcks in LA is coming or....
Posted on 6/26/19 at 12:15 pm
Posted on 6/26/19 at 12:15 pm
at least is up for serious discussion now... but...
Is over fishing the cause or is it our degrading estuary habitat that may finally be catching up with us?
apparently the spawning bio mass is way way off.
my guess is 14 " and 15 fish
Is over fishing the cause or is it our degrading estuary habitat that may finally be catching up with us?
apparently the spawning bio mass is way way off.
my guess is 14 " and 15 fish
This post was edited on 6/26/19 at 12:42 pm
Posted on 6/26/19 at 12:34 pm to choupiquesushi
I'm all for it. Nobody needs more that 10-15 trout per day. fricking ridiculous.
Posted on 6/26/19 at 12:53 pm to choupiquesushi
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my guess is 14 " and 15 fish
That is plenty of meat.
Posted on 6/26/19 at 12:56 pm to choupiquesushi
Will happen at the fall commission meeting with zero objections.
Cal going to 10/12or14”, prefer 14” and fine with dropping limit. Our recruitment the past couple years has been underwhelming, tons of short fish that don’t seem to grow.
Cal going to 10/12or14”, prefer 14” and fine with dropping limit. Our recruitment the past couple years has been underwhelming, tons of short fish that don’t seem to grow.
Posted on 6/26/19 at 1:05 pm to choupiquesushi
It's coming, I'm sure
I will become a full time golfer when it does
Too much investment of time and money to be done in an hour.
Big reason I don't fish redfish
The guides will love it. Less work.
I will become a full time golfer when it does
Too much investment of time and money to be done in an hour.
Big reason I don't fish redfish
The guides will love it. Less work.
Posted on 6/26/19 at 1:12 pm to choupiquesushi
Here we go. This should be fun.
Posted on 6/26/19 at 1:40 pm to choupiquesushi
But, but, but ...science.
Posted on 6/26/19 at 2:15 pm to choupiquesushi
I'm all for reducing the limit to 15 specs. No one needs 25 a day. I don't care that you only get to go 1 or 2 times a year, that's not my problem.
Posted on 6/26/19 at 3:56 pm to choupiquesushi
Anyone think these places are just getting fished way harder since the introduction of Facebook fishing groups? You have 2-3 ppl post beach reports and there’s 250 boats there the next day. Same goes for any body of water discussed in those groups. Seems like it’s gotta be putting way more pressure on the fish.
Reducing to 15, IF needed, would be cool by me since I rarely catch over that any way But like coco said, it’s a slippery slope... first it’s 15, then before we know it a decade passes and they’re pushing for 5.. Look at TX
Reducing to 15, IF needed, would be cool by me since I rarely catch over that any way But like coco said, it’s a slippery slope... first it’s 15, then before we know it a decade passes and they’re pushing for 5.. Look at TX
Posted on 6/26/19 at 5:03 pm to choupiquesushi
I’m all for change, IF there’s science to back it up. How often do 2 people go out and catch 50 specks? Not often and I fish more than most on here. If the current limit is already nearly unattainable for most people in most circumstances, than I see no reason to change it.
Posted on 6/26/19 at 5:48 pm to choupiquesushi
Ban inshore shrimping like MS and the fish populations will explode. At least in the bays if nothing else
Posted on 6/26/19 at 7:40 pm to choupiquesushi
They just lowered us to 5 trout on the Texas side of sabine starting September 1. Cca and trophy fishermen are pushing it. I always put in across the bridge so it doesn't bother me.. but Texas is chicken shite when it comes to game laws..
Posted on 6/26/19 at 11:27 pm to choupiquesushi
Yea yall’s trout regulations are ridiculous. 12 inches is preposterous.
Posted on 6/27/19 at 5:24 am to choupiquesushi
All I hear from the people pushing it are "I cant catch a full limit".
Yall are using the same argument Democrats use for everything. "Ph I dont like it so no one else should do it, either"
Yall are using the same argument Democrats use for everything. "Ph I dont like it so no one else should do it, either"
Posted on 6/27/19 at 10:37 am to choupiquesushi
quote:
Is over fishing the cause or is it our degrading estuary habitat that may finally be catching up with us?
BOTH!
The science is there for a change. To what? who knows. They (LDWF) have been rumbling about it for years, but for some reason, the powers that be in the STATE of LA want to keep it high to preserve the look of "sportsmans paradise"
Supposedly this was the biggest reason for no change after the BP spill, which was because the state couldn't take another hit on it's tourism money. At that time I heard from folks on the inside they were looking at 10 per person and 14" minimum because that's how bad its gotten. Yet all they want to do is "re-evaluate" their sampling methods.
This post was edited on 6/27/19 at 10:44 am
Posted on 6/27/19 at 1:42 pm to choupiquesushi
I am a retired marine biologist and would like to offer some input on this discussion concerning the status of spotted seatrout in Louisiana based upon the recent State stock assessment. First, declines in spawning stock biomass and total numbers can be partially attributed to the loss of mid- and upper-estuary protected shallow water ponds which provide optimum nursery habitat for early juvenile spotted seatrout and other estuarine dependent species. This conclusion was predicted many years ago by scientists studying the potential loss of inshore nursery habitat in Louisiana on estuarine-dependent species. Second, spotted seatrout populations have always rebounded sharply from massive documented cold weather mortalities in 1983-84 and 1989, etc. Third, reducing creel limits to 10 or 15 fish will probably minimally reduce overall harvest because a high percentage of fishing trips as documented by statewide or local creel surveys indicate that only a low percentage of fishing trips result in limits or over 15 fish. Finally, after the BP oil spill, the Department of Wildlife and Fisheries changed their fish sampling protocol from fixed stations in optimum habitats in three inshore-offshore zones within each of the coastal study areas to a randomized selection of stations, which resulted in many stations being in unproductive local habitats. While randomized sampling would probably result in an excellent data base to depict trends in marine fish populations, comparison of data from fixed stations to random-selected stations may not be comparable.
I am also an enthusiastic fisherman in upper marsh areas, and I acknowledge that recent spotted seatrout catches may been very low for various reasons such as potential fish kills in Jan 2017 and high rainfall and Mississippi River discharges in the late 2018 and 2019 which resulted in low salinities and temporary displacement of marine fish such as spotted seatrout.
I am cautiously optimistic that spotted seatrout populations could rebound temporarily without additional harvest restrictions, but at the same time recognize that in the future fishermen could expect additional restrictions.
I am also an enthusiastic fisherman in upper marsh areas, and I acknowledge that recent spotted seatrout catches may been very low for various reasons such as potential fish kills in Jan 2017 and high rainfall and Mississippi River discharges in the late 2018 and 2019 which resulted in low salinities and temporary displacement of marine fish such as spotted seatrout.
I am cautiously optimistic that spotted seatrout populations could rebound temporarily without additional harvest restrictions, but at the same time recognize that in the future fishermen could expect additional restrictions.
This post was edited on 6/27/19 at 1:44 pm
Posted on 6/27/19 at 2:01 pm to choupiquesushi
It wont affect me and my friends. We are shite at fishing so unless they drop the limit to 2 fish a day we will be ok.
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