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re: 72 Philly police officers on leave over “racist” FB posts

Posted on 6/20/19 at 11:06 am to
Posted by TH03
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Posted on 6/20/19 at 11:06 am to
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Would you disagree that some of their posts are a result of attitudes that are created by the environment that they work in?


Sure, but they've gone flying past the line.

They should not be policing our streets.
This post was edited on 6/20/19 at 11:07 am
Posted by brass2mouth
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Posted on 6/20/19 at 11:17 am to
Outside of that second to last “don’t stop resisting” and maybe that chokehold photo, there isn’t anything really concerning there. Even though two shouldn’t warrant anything more than some counseling or something similar.
Posted by EarlyCuyler3
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Posted on 6/20/19 at 11:18 am to
I'm sorry, I thought we stood for personal responsibility here.
Posted by High C
viewing the fall....
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Posted on 6/20/19 at 11:18 am to
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Absolutely. Which is all the more reason to weed out cops like these that clearly can't handle the stress.


Based on your link, you seem to be arguing that more intelligent police officers would be more likely to be able to handle the stress of the job. I would argue the opposite, tbh.
Posted by Murtown
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Posted on 6/20/19 at 11:21 am to
As usual the biggest victim here are the taxpayers who must now pay for a law firm to spend hundreds or thousands of hours on this stuff.
Posted by EarlyCuyler3
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Posted on 6/20/19 at 11:22 am to
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Based on your link, you seem to be arguing that more intelligent police officers would be more likely to be able to handle the stress of the job. I would argue the opposite, tbh.


I'm not arguing either in this case. I do however think more intelligent police officers wouldn't open themselves up for situations like this on Facebook though. Hence, more intelligent.

That was just the response to his suggestion that we don't have enough candidates to be police officers.
This post was edited on 6/20/19 at 11:24 am
Posted by Salmon
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Posted on 6/20/19 at 11:23 am to
as opposed to taxpayers paying the salaries of shitty cops?
Posted by EarlyCuyler3
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Posted on 6/20/19 at 11:24 am to
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As usual the biggest victim here are the taxpayers who must now pay for a law firm to spend hundreds or thousands of hours on this stuff.


Agreed. It should come from the salaries of those responsible, no?
Posted by Murtown
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Posted on 6/20/19 at 11:25 am to
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as opposed to taxpayers paying the salaries of shitty cops?


Where does it say they are shitty cops? Have you looked at their records? Do their facebook posts, whether they align with your views or not, make them shitty cops or good cops?
Posted by SeeeeK
some where
Member since Sep 2012
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Posted on 6/20/19 at 11:27 am to
This group who got those Philly cops, also reported several St.Louis Police officers.

Of the 8 or 9 meme St.Louis PD officers retweeted or reposted that i was able to see, they were not even remotely racist.

Since BLM ran out of Soros money, they have activists scouring the net looking for anything and everything.

There is an office in downtown St.Louis with hack attorneys and activists who scour hashtags, tweets, and shite all day, looking to get people in power, police, etc taken down. Now, they aren't looking for any shite local Democratic Politicians say, they single out their targets.


Still shocked these cops still are on facebook or twitter. They are watching you and everything you do on your accounts, why give them anything?
This post was edited on 6/20/19 at 11:34 am
Posted by stateofplay
Member since Sep 2018
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Posted on 6/20/19 at 11:28 am to
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from Arizona to Florida Wonder why they left California out?


I wonder why too since we know the LAPD is infested with a bunch of racists
Posted by Salmon
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Posted on 6/20/19 at 11:28 am to
If they lack basic judgement, like posting stupid memes on FB, I think it’s safe to assume they are also bad at their job.

Poor decision makers generally make poor decisions in all aspects of their life.
Posted by Centinel
Idaho
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Posted on 6/20/19 at 11:29 am to
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It should come from the salaries of those responsible, no?


Those responsible for what?

Posted by EarlyCuyler3
Appalachia
Member since Nov 2017
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Posted on 6/20/19 at 11:31 am to
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Those responsible for what?


Posting comments/memes that caused an investigation to be launched.

I'm not serious about this position FWIW. My point was we're either for personal responsibility or we're not. Not just when it supports whatever cause or political stance I believe in.
Posted by brass2mouth
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Posted on 6/20/19 at 11:32 am to
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I'm sorry, I thought we stood for personal responsibility here.


From the stuff you posted, outside of the two I previously mentioned it’s nothing more than an off color joke.

They aren’t a screaming “death to darkie” or anything. It’s blown out of proportion bc any and everything nowadays that upsets somebody is some kind of “-ism.”

Hell you can wear a hat representing the president of the United States and be called a racist.

If it’s discovered that they did indeed post racial attacks then fine but if a cop Referred to Whitney Houston as a crack head or posted an off color meme about protesters blocking streets and interstates then, IMO there is nothing there. However the damage is done and the news site gets their click count for the year.

Eta typo
This post was edited on 6/20/19 at 2:30 pm
Posted by High C
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Member since Nov 2012
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Posted on 6/20/19 at 11:32 am to
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Where does it say they are shitty cops? Have you looked at their records? Do their facebook posts, whether they align with your views or not, make them shitty cops or good cops?


Another valid point. I think that this is a profession that is among the most relentlessly bashed in our country, often for good reason. Unfortunately, I don’t think that the vast majority of the bashers would be willing to strap up and take on the job themselves.
Posted by AwesomeSauce
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Member since May 2015
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Posted on 6/20/19 at 11:32 am to
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How about we stop hyperventilating over what anyone posts on social media?


I think it's fair to question one's ability to show discretion in the workplace if they show a lack for that ability on social media. I also don't have a problem with government agencies policing their own if it saves taxpayers money.

Just think if one of these officers was in an incident where someone who practices Islam or looked like someone who would practice Islam cited police brutality. Lawyer shows posts in court or during settlement hearings and now taxpayers have to foot a large bill because someone doesn't have the wherewithal to see how social media can be used against them.
Posted by EarlyCuyler3
Appalachia
Member since Nov 2017
27290 posts
Posted on 6/20/19 at 11:34 am to
Did you miss the whole bit about police brutality? And the part where they were advocating running over protesters, who, incidentally, were exercising the very 1st amendment rights that we're supposedly trampling on here? (Blocking the interstate isn't specifically what I'm referring to, just protesting in general.)
Posted by Centinel
Idaho
Member since Sep 2016
43477 posts
Posted on 6/20/19 at 11:34 am to
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Posting comments/memes that caused an investigation to be launched


There should be no investigation for posting comments/memes.

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My point was we're either for personal responsibility or we're not


This has nothing to do with personal responsibility. This has everything to do with people specifically scouring social media to find things to get outraged about and get people fired from their jobs because they have a hardon against cops.
Posted by EarlyCuyler3
Appalachia
Member since Nov 2017
27290 posts
Posted on 6/20/19 at 11:36 am to
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This has nothing to do with personal responsibility. This has everything to do with people specifically scouring social media to find things to get outraged about and get people fired from their jobs because they have a hardon against cops.


They're not responsible for their comments that reflect upon their profession and/or city? Come again?
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