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from the 'no shite" category... Male Submariners 'Ranked' Female Crew
Posted on 5/20/19 at 11:50 am
Posted on 5/20/19 at 11:50 am
sorry if Unterseeboot (U-boat)...
Sailors ranked female crew and the sex acts they wanted to perform with them, Navy report says
Sailors ranked female crew and the sex acts they wanted to perform with them, Navy report says
quote:
Sailors aboard a U.S. Navy submarine circulated sexually explicit lists that ranked female crew members, an investigation found. The lists, first reported Friday by Military.com, were uncovered through a Freedom of Information Act request.
The 74-page investigative report reveals two lists — one with Yelplike star ratings on the women and another containing “lewd and sexist comments” beside each woman’s name, according to Military.com.
In February 2018, the guided-missile submarine USS Florida became the second to integrate female members. The misconduct came to light four months later, when two sailors aboard the Florida brought the lists to a superior officer, reporting that they were stored on an internal computer network and updated regularly, Military.com reported.
At the time, the submarine employed 32 women in its 173-person crew.
The lists — which Military.com characterizes as “rape lists” — were described as ranking “females by appearances, characteristics and various sexual acts the creators of the list wish to perform with them,” including “aggressive sexual activity.” The lists do “not reference non-consensual acts,” the report said, according to Military.com, noting that a search of submarine networks by commanding officer Capt. Gregory Kercher and a forensic test by the Naval Criminal Investigative Service did not locate either list.
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The officers reported the existence of the lists in early June, the outlet reported. By the time the complaint reached Kercher, the investigation alleged, the sexual-assault-prevention point person, an equal-opportunity manager and Kercher’s higher-up adviser had already been notified about the lists, too.
Kercher, who did not respond to The Washington Post’s request for comment, did not open a formal investigation or discuss the allegations with his command, according to Military.com. Instead, he purportedly addressed the problem by identifying crew members who were accessing and sharing the lists.
By means that are unclear, Navy officials above Kercher found out about the lists and conducted a formal investigation while the submarine was in the Indian Ocean. The date the investigation began is unknown.
The investigation concluded that “trust up and down the chain of command was nonexistent,” according to Military.com.
With rumors swirling, relations among shipmates deteriorated. One woman told Military.com that she began to “question all males on the boat.” Another said she felt compelled to send photos of the lists to family members at home; she worried that the chain of command would “sweep it under the rug.”
Rear Adm. Jeff Jablon, then-commander of Submarine Group 10, wrote in a letter obtained by Military.com that few crew members knew what, if any, action had been taken by higher-ups.
“Significant numbers of females became concerned for their safety,” he wrote, “and male members who learned of the list were equally repulsed,” the outlet reports.
As a result of the investigation, Kercher was fired; he had held the position for five months, during which there were also complaints of high workloads. Jablon said Kercher fell “far short of expected standards and norms for an event of this magnitude.”
Two sailors were discharged and “additional administrative actions were taken” against several others who mishandled the incident, and the investigation concluded that the equal-opportunity reporting process was ineffective, U.S. submarine services spokeswoman Sarah Self-Kyler told Military.com.
In a statement provided to Military.com, Adm. Chas Richard, commander of U.S. Submarine Forces, said: “While I cannot guarantee that an incident such as this will never happen again, I can guarantee that we will continue to enforce our high standards of conduct and character in the Force,” adding that anyone who falls short of those expectations would be held accountable.
Posted on 5/20/19 at 11:52 am to JPinLondon
Cmon, you don’t actually write down the lists
Posted on 5/20/19 at 11:54 am to JPinLondon
as an ex submariner i am embarrassed...
that women are now allowed on submarines.
that women are now allowed on submarines.
Posted on 5/20/19 at 11:56 am to JPinLondon
Zero reason to put women on boats with men, especially submarines.
Does nothing to increase our fighting capacity and only causes problems.
The military should not be a social experiment.
You want women in the navy put them on their own boat.
Does nothing to increase our fighting capacity and only causes problems.
The military should not be a social experiment.
You want women in the navy put them on their own boat.
This post was edited on 5/20/19 at 11:59 am
Posted on 5/20/19 at 11:57 am to JPinLondon
Well, were the female crew members hot?
Posted on 5/20/19 at 11:58 am to JPinLondon
quote:
Significant numbers of females became concerned for their safety,” he wrote, “and male members who learned of the list were equally repulsed,”
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Posted on 5/20/19 at 11:59 am to JPinLondon
quote:
The lists — which Military.com characterizes as “rape lists”
oh boy
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Posted on 5/20/19 at 12:00 pm to JPinLondon
Post some pics so we can rate them, too.
Posted on 5/20/19 at 12:07 pm to JPinLondon
quote:
USS Florida
probably didn't need to be said. Although, ranking all the bad shite from Florida, this is pretty low. Barely worth an article.
Posted on 5/20/19 at 12:10 pm to JPinLondon
So in other words they asked WOWYHI
Posted on 5/20/19 at 12:15 pm to JPinLondon
quote:
The lists — which Military.com characterizes as “rape lists”
quote:
The lists do “not reference non-consensual acts,”
So now rape is defined as the mere want to have sex with someone.
Posted on 5/20/19 at 12:16 pm to JPinLondon
Girls in the dorm in college had a huge list of guys and
dick size
ability in bed
etc
no one seemed to have an issue with it....guess it's cool if girls do it but if guys do it it's sexist.
dick size
ability in bed
etc
no one seemed to have an issue with it....guess it's cool if girls do it but if guys do it it's sexist.
Posted on 5/20/19 at 12:19 pm to JPinLondon
I sure am glad that the Navy is cracking down on lockerroom talk. Sure, the website is inappropriate, but guys talk about the nasty shite they “would” do to women all the time. Do most of them actually go for it? Of course not.
Posted on 5/20/19 at 12:43 pm to JPinLondon
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Posted on 5/20/19 at 12:45 pm to JPinLondon
quote:
The lists — which Military.com characterizes as “rape lists” — were described as ranking “females by appearances, characteristics and various sexual acts the creators of the list wish to perform with them,” including “aggressive sexual activity.” The lists do “not reference non-consensual acts,” the report said
Rape lists
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Posted on 5/20/19 at 12:48 pm to JPinLondon
Women have no business being in the military other than in rear area admin or medical fields. And I’m not saying that because I have anything against women. I’m saying that because one of the fastest and most sure-fire ways to harm unit morale, cohesion, and combat effectiveness is for their to be sexual/romantic issues and distractions between members in that unit. For that same reason, gays and transgenders likewise should not be allowed in the military.
Posted on 5/20/19 at 1:47 pm to JPinLondon
Question: Were these ratings based upon personal experiences, or expectations?
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