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re: Trump loses his base if he signs this bill
Posted on 2/14/19 at 6:27 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
Posted on 2/14/19 at 6:27 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
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When will you guys realize this? Policy doesn’t matter to the true believers
Hail, this bill is literally a traffickers amnesty giveaway where anyone with a kid can’t be deported, brings in more cheap labor for big business and also makes sure the wall is never built by only authorizing it in liberal areas and refusing to authorize it in conservative like like Cochise county.
It’s a goddamn disaster.
Trump is better off with a clean CR and a national emergency declaration. If he signs it, he’s an absolute moron or a coward.
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Posted on 2/14/19 at 6:28 pm to DavidTheGnome
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This, listen to this board. He could come out saying the 2A is a sham and we need to turn our guns in and 90% of the people on here would find ways to justify it to themselves
FALSE
Posted on 2/14/19 at 6:28 pm to deltaland
Lies
Posted on 2/14/19 at 6:28 pm to DavidTheGnome
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He could come out saying the 2A is a sham and we need to turn our guns in and 90% of the people on here would find ways to justify it to themselves.
That's just false. Stupid too
Posted on 2/14/19 at 6:30 pm to deltaland
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No way we stick behind him.
Who will we support instead? Kamala Harris?
Get your head out of your arse.
Posted on 2/14/19 at 6:30 pm to deltaland
LOL! Who we gone support then, Kamela? Have another drink or quit trolling.
Posted on 2/14/19 at 6:31 pm to jimdog
What does he gain by signing the bill if he will still declare a national emergency? I say don’t give those rat frickers on the left anything.
Posted on 2/14/19 at 6:32 pm to Crimson1st
quote:He had more money and less restrictions in the December CR and could have gotten more as the CR only extended to this week.
How so?
Posted on 2/14/19 at 6:33 pm to Crimson1st
quote:He got no money for the wall. Schumer said as much. That 1.37 billion will not go to a wall.
How so? He did get $$$ for the wall in the face of Nancy who went from $0 to $1 and he will get the rest in another manner.
quote:I'm just telling you, I've seen this before. I'll go out and vote for him, but recall he got people out to vote who hadn't in years. They see him getting rolled in a deal like this and they aren't going to view him in the same light.
Also, if his base is complacent in 2020 with so much at stake and allows for a fringe prog Dem to get in office by sitting on their asses then they are no better than those pathetic "Never Trumpers" we discussed yesterday.
Posted on 2/14/19 at 6:33 pm to deltaland
It's not about policy with you guys as much as it is the optics of winning.
I am, however, laughing my arse off at the prospect of Trump being accused of being a cuck. We are living in perhaps the most absurd and surreal periods in American history. Nothing seems real.
Posted on 2/14/19 at 6:35 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
quote:And all the true colors are out for all to see in this thread.
Trump’s base is with him no matter what....it is a personality cult, much like obama fans
When will you guys realize this? Policy doesn’t matter to the true believers
Your opinion means absolutely nothing in influence with Marco Rubio's jizz all over your face.
Posted on 2/14/19 at 6:36 pm to deltaland
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He might through the NE but it will require winning re election and putting another conservative justice on the SC before they take it up.
Nope. The data exists to protect citizens. And they won’t need another SCUTUS appointment for it. NEs have been approved for much less.
This post was edited on 2/14/19 at 6:36 pm
Posted on 2/14/19 at 6:37 pm to deltaland
D...Trump's Lawyers had time to assess the "land mines" in that Bill; plenty of em'. But the must have made the Legal judgment that they can be overcome by the NE Declaration.
I heard that there is FIFTY MILLION potential illegal immigrants ready to come North. Trump has assured that the overwhelming Public Narrative WILL be what happens on that Border. He won an election on that issue. And things have only got worse since then.
This is trench warfare. Buck up for the long run. There is no where for the Base to go...but to their "pitchforks". That is the dire, last option; and likely not a political action...but an unintended consequence of political action/non-action. Medicare, Social Security and Private Savings/Retirement Funds collapsing (Alinsky's "engineered collapse") would be a likely impetus. Let's hope and pray that won't happen.
I heard that there is FIFTY MILLION potential illegal immigrants ready to come North. Trump has assured that the overwhelming Public Narrative WILL be what happens on that Border. He won an election on that issue. And things have only got worse since then.
This is trench warfare. Buck up for the long run. There is no where for the Base to go...but to their "pitchforks". That is the dire, last option; and likely not a political action...but an unintended consequence of political action/non-action. Medicare, Social Security and Private Savings/Retirement Funds collapsing (Alinsky's "engineered collapse") would be a likely impetus. Let's hope and pray that won't happen.
Posted on 2/14/19 at 6:38 pm to cajunangelle
quote:Are you suggesting that one can't be a Trump supporter and criticize him when he loses? For those that support Trump's rhetoric on border issues, this "deal" is garbage and that is indisputable.
And all the true colors are out for all to see in this thread
Posted on 2/14/19 at 6:47 pm to deltaland
My company is going to get some of that $725 million tech money. I’m pretty fricking happy with it.
Posted on 2/14/19 at 6:49 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
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When will you guys realize this? Policy doesn’t matter to the true believers
But that’s a problem. We need to hold his feet to the fire, not accept whatever he does.
My gut says he won’t sign it. But we need to put the pressure on imo
Posted on 2/14/19 at 6:50 pm to Magician2
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His base should turn on congress
Those frick sticks are walking away practically unscathed. Shelby and his team negotiating was pathetic.
This is true. However it’s pretty much expected. GOP in Congress has been worthless for almost 20 years
Newt as speaker was the last time they did anything worth a damn
Posted on 2/14/19 at 6:51 pm to umop_apisdn
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Another week, another Trump doubter.
I don’t doubt him. I’m saying what will happen if he signs and the NE declaration doesn’t work out
Posted on 2/14/19 at 6:52 pm to Sentrius
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Trump is better off with a clean CR and a national emergency declaration. If he signs it, he’s an absolute moron or a coward.
I’d be fine with this tbh.
Posted on 2/14/19 at 6:53 pm to jimdog
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Who we gone support then, Kamela? Have another drink or quit trolling.
I’m honestly not trolling at all. I think it will reduce enthusiasm and lower turnout.
No trump voter will vote D obviously
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