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re: Catholic priest criticised teenager who killed himself at his own funeral

Posted on 12/16/18 at 6:12 pm to
Posted by mikelbr
Baton Rouge
Member since Apr 2008
47826 posts
Posted on 12/16/18 at 6:12 pm to
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It’s about denying a natural, God-given drive that creates the problem. Pedophilia is based on access. Do you really think the child rape problem would exist if priests were allowed to marry

You know a lot of men and women go to prison for life and NEVER contemplate homosexual sex because of its easy Access.

Tard.
Posted by DeathValley85
Member since May 2011
17397 posts
Posted on 12/16/18 at 6:14 pm to
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It would allow the church to be more selective. You cant tell me some of these guys didnt have red flags and were ordained anyway because there were more billets to fill than candidates.


This seems obvious to me, yet I was similarly downvoted in another thread for saying so.

Maybe it was because I also recommended allowing women to become priests too
Posted by OWLFAN86
Erotic Novelist
Member since Jun 2004
180852 posts
Posted on 12/16/18 at 6:15 pm to
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Maybe it was because I also recommended allowing women to become priests too

cause thats working out so well with teachers
Posted by LongTime Tiger
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2010
2479 posts
Posted on 12/16/18 at 6:16 pm to
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There is not might about it...he will end up in purgatory at best.



Read the new cathecism. The church has waffled.
Our Lady of the Perpetual Waffle
Posted by Lacour
Member since Nov 2009
32949 posts
Posted on 12/16/18 at 6:19 pm to
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There is not might about it...he will end up in purgatory at best.


Do you really believe purgatory is real?

I mean seriously.
Posted by RollTide1987
Augusta, GA
Member since Nov 2009
66031 posts
Posted on 12/16/18 at 6:19 pm to
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1. Confession required through an earthly priest. Not taught by Jesus


John 20:21 - "As the Father has sent me, even so I send you."

John 20:22-23 - "Receive the Holy Spirit. If you forgive the sins of any, they are forgiven; if you retain the sins of any, they are retained."

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2. No mention of purgatory in Jesus teaching


Purgatory in the Bible

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3. Jesus taught baptism after conversion not at birth.


Jesus did no such thing.

St. Paul, in his later to the Colossians, calls baptism the "circumcision of Christ." Only infants were circumcised under the Old Law. If Paul meant to exclude infants, I doubt he would have used circumcision to draw a parallel to baptism.

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4. Human (Pope) determining/changing doctrine. Jesus taught God’s word is unchanging. Regardless of society.


1. The Pope does not do this unilaterally.

2. In the Gospel of St. Matthew, Jesus gave Peter the authority to bind and loose doctrine in Heaven. This principal is applied in Acts 15 when Peter and the Council of Jerusalem reject the Old Law by not requiring infants to be circumcised.

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5. Based on his humble life and teachings I doubt Jesus intended the “church” to become the largest/richest business in the world.



"Therefore go and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and the Son and the Holy Spirit..." - Jesus of Nazareth

Posted by Champagne
Already Conquered USA.
Member since Oct 2007
49398 posts
Posted on 12/16/18 at 6:19 pm to
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your name means faggy wine


Champagne is what NFL Champions, World Series Champions and Fighter Pilot Aces drink after securing the Victory.
Posted by Carson123987
Middle Court at the Rec
Member since Jul 2011
66737 posts
Posted on 12/16/18 at 6:22 pm to
LOL at religion
Posted by Mo Jeaux
Member since Aug 2008
59752 posts
Posted on 12/16/18 at 6:23 pm to
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RollTide1987


Not very convincing evidence.
Posted by Lacour
Member since Nov 2009
32949 posts
Posted on 12/16/18 at 6:24 pm to
That’s some pretty weak sauce.
Butter spread over too much bread
Water in whiskey
Milk in the Mac and cheese.

Thin

Thin

Posted by RollTide1987
Augusta, GA
Member since Nov 2009
66031 posts
Posted on 12/16/18 at 6:27 pm to
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Do you really believe purgatory is real?


The Bible tells us that nothing unclean can enter Heaven. To die with sin on your soul is to die spiritually unclean. Let's say you are at work one day and you go to the break room to get a coke from the communal store. You reach into your pocket and realize you don't have any change or cash on you. You look around, make sure no one's watching, and you grab a coke with every intention of paying for it the next day.

In the eyes of God, even though you know in your heart of hearts that you're going to come back with money, you've just committed a sin. Now let's say your on your way home from work that afternoon, you get into a car wreck, and you die. You didn't pay for the coke and you hadn't paused to ask God for forgiveness yet. Do you go to Heaven? Or do you go to Hell?
Posted by EA6B
TX
Member since Dec 2012
14754 posts
Posted on 12/16/18 at 6:31 pm to
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It’s about denying a natural, God-given drive that creates the problem. Pedophilia is based on access. Do you really think the child rape problem would exist if priests were allowed to marry?


Pedophiles are born with their attraction to children. They start to realize that attraction at a early age, and many will structure their lives to enable them to be around children, often choosing careers that will give them access to children. The priesthood was almost designed to be the perfect career path for a pedophile. They had access to children, until recent history their character and motives would go unquestioned.
The one positive thing that would be accomplished by allowing priest to marry would be expanding the pool of men that would be interested in being a priest beyond those that are homosexuals, or pedophiles.
This post was edited on 12/16/18 at 6:46 pm
Posted by OWLFAN86
Erotic Novelist
Member since Jun 2004
180852 posts
Posted on 12/16/18 at 6:32 pm to
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Champagne is what NFL Champions, World Series Champions and Fighter Pilot Aces drink after securing the Victory.

and soccer players
Posted by Lacour
Member since Nov 2009
32949 posts
Posted on 12/16/18 at 6:33 pm to
If nothing with sin can enter, what was the point of Jesus? Why would there be another level? Why have a middle management area?

It’s a stupid concept.
Posted by OWLFAN86
Erotic Novelist
Member since Jun 2004
180852 posts
Posted on 12/16/18 at 6:36 pm to
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If nothing with sin can enter, what was the point of Jesus? Why would there be another level? Why have a middle management area?

the sacrifice of Christ cleanses the sin

the concept of a sacrifice to secure blessing of the Deity is fairly universal so , it's illogical to single out Christianity
Posted by LongTime Tiger
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2010
2479 posts
Posted on 12/16/18 at 6:37 pm to
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Many parts of the Bible condemn it

Start with Matthew 22:39


Can't even use Catholic logic to twist this one that much.
Love your neighbor. Nothing about heaven or hell. Or suicide.
Posted by JudgeHolden
Gila River
Member since Jan 2008
18566 posts
Posted on 12/16/18 at 6:37 pm to
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Bible tells us that nothing unclean can enter Heaven


Revelation 21:27.

Putting aside that you are begging the question of universal salvation, I’m not sure that scripture is the heaven you mean.

Jesus did have a lot to say about nit picky, rule making, self righteous jackasses. He didn’t like them much. Try again, Vapid Vaticanist.
Posted by Mo Jeaux
Member since Aug 2008
59752 posts
Posted on 12/16/18 at 6:38 pm to
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The Bible tells us that nothing unclean can enter Heaven. To die with sin on your soul is to die spiritually unclean. Let's say you are at work one day and you go to the break room to get a coke from the communal store. You reach into your pocket and realize you don't have any change or cash on you. You look around, make sure no one's watching, and you grab a coke with every intention of paying for it the next day.

In the eyes of God, even though you know in your heart of hearts that you're going to come back with money, you've just committed a sin. Now let's say your on your way home from work that afternoon, you get into a car wreck, and you die. You didn't pay for the coke and you hadn't paused to ask God for forgiveness yet. Do you go to Heaven? Or do you go to Hell?



So God hates credit?
Posted by MrLarson
Member since Oct 2014
34984 posts
Posted on 12/16/18 at 6:39 pm to
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In the eyes of God, even though you know in your heart of hearts that you're going to come back with money, you've just committed a sin. Now let's say your on your way home from work that afternoon, you get into a car wreck, and you die. You didn't pay for the coke and you hadn't paused to ask God for forgiveness yet. Do you go to Heaven? Or do you go to Hell?


If a soda determines my eternity then God/Jesus can go frick themselves, show me the door to hell. It has to be a better place.
This post was edited on 12/16/18 at 6:41 pm
Posted by tiger_nurse
Member since Aug 2012
511 posts
Posted on 12/16/18 at 6:40 pm to
If only the OP knew what a comma was used for.
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