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Was Butler worth Jrue? The Pels didn't think so...

Posted on 11/11/18 at 5:19 pm
Posted by THRILLHO
Metry, LA
Member since Apr 2006
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Posted on 11/11/18 at 5:19 pm
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Andrew Lopez ? Verified account @_Andrew_Lopez Follow Follow @_Andrew_Lopez More According to Woj, the Pelicans were very much involved in the Jimmy Butler saga but ultimately balked when the Wolves asked for Jrue Holiday or multiple picks.


Yes, I know that additional picks were involved, but we give away draft picks like they're candy on Halloween.
Posted by htran90
BC
Member since Dec 2012
30139 posts
Posted on 11/11/18 at 5:22 pm to
Multiple picks. Sure.

Jrue? Hahahahahaha. No. That's going from something proven on our team to unknown.
Posted by TigerinATL
Member since Feb 2005
61582 posts
Posted on 11/11/18 at 5:32 pm to
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Multiple picks. Sure.


I'm guessing it was multiple picks AND players we'd want to keep and not just Solomon Hill. If it was Solo, filler and 2 1sts I think they'd have done that.
Posted by BallHawk
Orlando
Member since Jul 2011
5744 posts
Posted on 11/11/18 at 5:33 pm to
I hope we try to make a play for Covington when the Wolves inevitably decide to become sellers
Posted by Mad Scientist26
Member since Jul 2018
1948 posts
Posted on 11/11/18 at 5:52 pm to
Yeah I wouldn’t trade Holiday for Butler. At least Holiday gets along with people.
Posted by Colonel Flagg
Baton Rouge
Member since Apr 2010
22825 posts
Posted on 11/11/18 at 6:04 pm to
I prefer Holiday over Butler.
Posted by TeddyPadillac
Member since Dec 2010
25812 posts
Posted on 11/11/18 at 6:09 pm to
Well I wouldn’t have traded Jrue for him that’s for sure.
Multiple 1sts.....sure, two of them, no more than that like the idiots in Houston.
Posted by whatiknowsofar
hm?
Member since Nov 2010
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Posted on 11/11/18 at 6:23 pm to
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Wolves asked for Jrue Holiday


Even Dell was like lolno
Posted by TigerinATL
Member since Feb 2005
61582 posts
Posted on 11/11/18 at 6:27 pm to
2 summers ago when there were all kinds of rumors of Jrue getting a near max deal and people were premelting, I bet over 90% would have traded Jrue for Butler straight up. It's really funny how things can change so quickly.
Posted by Bronc
Member since Sep 2018
12646 posts
Posted on 11/11/18 at 6:40 pm to
First point I would make is that it wasn't actually stated they wanted a high end player AND picks, but honestly if we assume it was, which does make sense, take Jrue and AD off the table and I am not sure who I would say no to giving up?

Mirotic? Honestly, yeah, I probably would.
This post was edited on 11/11/18 at 6:41 pm
Posted by Markie812
Louisiana
Member since Nov 2007
2934 posts
Posted on 11/11/18 at 8:36 pm to
Butler is my favorite player outside anyone on the Pels but we know Jrue is locked in to stay and he has great team chemistry that you probably don’t want to frick with. If there was another way to get him it would have been intriguing though. I honestly think AD would have made it clear to keep Jrue also.
Posted by Philippines4LSU
Member since May 2018
8789 posts
Posted on 11/11/18 at 9:29 pm to
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Covington
quote:

Wolves


SPS!!
Posted by ThanosIsADemocrat
The Garden
Member since May 2018
9395 posts
Posted on 11/11/18 at 11:59 pm to
OP...

No.

Four players in top 75-80, two players in top 25.

1 player in top 3, at worst.

Let’s build depth.

A shame we have no GLeague team right now.

Biggest mistake in Benson-Loomis era.
Posted by JohnnyKilroy
Cajun Navy Vice Admiral
Member since Oct 2012
35558 posts
Posted on 11/12/18 at 12:04 am to
I would have melted hard if they did that trade.

Posted by pawel
Warsaw, Poland
Member since Oct 2016
788 posts
Posted on 11/12/18 at 1:38 am to
How in the world people are even considering Jrue for Butler?

Jrue is younger. His 'max' is much smaller. Fits this team well.

Butler is great player, but his next contract is so terrifing...

I dont see Thibs willing to accept Hill.

So probably Moore? Mirotic?

Moore and Johnson plus 1 pick. Yeah. 2 picks no...

Hill, Miller and Diallo plus 2 picks for Jones and Butler? Yeah.
Posted by htran90
BC
Member since Dec 2012
30139 posts
Posted on 11/12/18 at 8:46 am to
I wish we somehow got in the conversation for a 3 team trade.

But there's no way we could have gotten Roco.
Posted by TeddyPadillac
Member since Dec 2010
25812 posts
Posted on 11/12/18 at 9:01 am to
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But there's no way we could have gotten Roco.


There's always a way.
Why are people assuming the Wolves don't want Covington?
This guy has 4 years left making on average $11.7M/yr.
He's finished in the top 5 in +/- at the SF the last 2 years, and was #1 last year. He's one of the best defenders in the league and shoots in the upper 30's from 3. He is one of the best contracts in the NBA that isn't a rookie. He's 6'9". He's not your #1 or even #2 guy, but he is exactly what a team like the Pels need to play with AD and Jrue.

Minnesota isn't letting him go, and if they do, they are retarded. We could do a simple Wesley for Covington trade. I'd give them 2 unprotected 1sts with that too, and they'd still be dumb to do that trade.
Posted by TigerinATL
Member since Feb 2005
61582 posts
Posted on 11/12/18 at 9:12 am to
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Why are people assuming the Wolves don't want Covington?


On top of all of the reasons you listed, I'm sure they had other offers with decent current players on the table. If they took the one from Philly, it's because they want those players more than other assets they could have had.
Posted by Fun Bunch
New Orleans
Member since May 2008
116322 posts
Posted on 11/12/18 at 9:18 am to
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2 summers ago when there were all kinds of rumors of Jrue getting a near max deal and people were premelting, I bet over 90% would have traded Jrue for Butler straight up


And that would have been reasonable at the time, wouldn't you say?
Posted by TigerinATL
Member since Feb 2005
61582 posts
Posted on 11/12/18 at 9:20 am to
For sure. I'm not attacking those people, I'd have been among them, but it's truly remarkable how much Jrue has improved.
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