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Would a 10 fish limit on specks be so bad?
Posted on 9/19/18 at 3:45 pm
Posted on 9/19/18 at 3:45 pm
I stopped fishing for a limit over 15 years ago. 25 just seemed excessive for one person. 10 fish = 20 filets per person, so if 3 baws are fishing you've got 60 filets. Seems like plenty enough food and it could help our waters produce those Texas sized specks.
Give it a little thought before you rain me with downvotes.
Give it a little thought before you rain me with downvotes.
Posted on 9/19/18 at 3:47 pm to Fourteen28
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Give it a little thought before you rain me with downvotes.
ok.
Posted on 9/19/18 at 3:50 pm to tenfoe
Definitely agree, but Louisiana has always been and always will be a "quantity over quality" outdoors state
Posted on 9/19/18 at 3:50 pm to Fourteen28
I usually stop around 10ish too
I am too lazy to filet that many fish
I am too lazy to filet that many fish
Posted on 9/19/18 at 3:52 pm to Fourteen28
I still think the 15 fish limit at Big Lake is the perfect limit.
Posted on 9/19/18 at 3:52 pm to Fourteen28
With the price of boats, gas, bait, and gear, 25 is perfectly fine with me. Also, no study shows a decline in the population because of our limits, so leave it alone. If you wanna catch 10, be my guest.
Posted on 9/19/18 at 3:52 pm to Fourteen28
Just because you can’t catch 25 doesn’t mean we all can’t.
Posted on 9/19/18 at 3:57 pm to Fourteen28
This gets brought up every so often and the general answer is because the science is there that says Louisiana can support a limit of 25 without depleting the fishery, keep in mind not everyone speck fishing is catching 25 every time they go out. Reducing the limit would likely result in no changes to trophy trout caught as Louisiana doesn't have the high salinity levels of Texas and Florida, which is what big trout need.
*Not a scientist*
*Not a scientist*
Posted on 9/19/18 at 4:02 pm to Fourteen28
I think 10 is too much. I'm loving our 5 fish limit we have now in most of Texas.
Posted on 9/19/18 at 4:02 pm to Fourteen28
I totally agree. 10-15 fish per person is plenty.
Posted on 9/19/18 at 4:06 pm to bayoudude
I agree that’s it’s plenty, but that doesn’t mean it should be changed. Hell, if 3/4 of this thread says 10-15 is fine, then the 25 limit isn’t really relevant anyways.
Posted on 9/19/18 at 4:13 pm to Drunken Crawfish
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I still think the 15 fish limit at Big Lake is the perfect limit.
Posted on 9/19/18 at 4:14 pm to PapaPogey
Right, just keep 10 if you only want 10.
Me, I'm going meat hauling when I go for specs and I have no problem sitting down and cleaning/bagging 100 of them. They'll all get ate way before the end of deer season.
Me, I'm going meat hauling when I go for specs and I have no problem sitting down and cleaning/bagging 100 of them. They'll all get ate way before the end of deer season.
Posted on 9/19/18 at 4:17 pm to YOURADHERE
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This gets brought up every so often and the general answer is because the science is there that says Louisiana can support a limit of 25 without depleting the fishery, keep in mind not everyone speck fishing is catching 25 every time they go out. Reducing the limit would likely result in no changes to trophy trout caught as Louisiana doesn't have the high salinity levels of Texas and Florida, which is what big trout need.
*Not a scientist*
Nailed it.
Posted on 9/19/18 at 4:27 pm to Drunken Crawfish
I still think the 15 fish limit at Big Lake is the perfect limit.
There aren't any fishermen on the lake that can put 25 trout per person in the boat today so it's a moot point.
There aren't any fishermen on the lake that can put 25 trout per person in the boat today so it's a moot point.
Posted on 9/19/18 at 4:27 pm to Fourteen28
here's a link to an old thread that touches on the debate regarding increasing the minimum length and decreasing bag limits in an effort to increase the overall size of fish in LA. The long and the short of it is, it won't work. They've done studies, even in Big Lake where they reduced the bag limits, and have found no increase in size of trout.
Old speck thread
My post from said old thread:
Plentiful speckled trout lead to high daily limits
Old speck thread
My post from said old thread:
Plentiful speckled trout lead to high daily limits
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But the conversation reminded me that a long-discredited chant is being heard again in some local fishing circles: We should drop the limit on specks and/or increase the minimum size limit, because we'll have more and bigger fish.
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But the suggestion is also coming from sports fishers, who wonder if the quality of their trout fishing experience would improve if we had more conservative regulations.
To find an answer to that question, and to reconfirm we are not "fish hogs," I turned to the fisheries biologist at the Louisiana Department of Wildlife and Fisheries.
I got a quick, one-word answer: No.
"We've run (computer) scenarios on lowering the creel limits and increasing the size limits, and from our assessments those actions did not noticeably increase the number of fish in the system or the number of big fish," said Joey Shepard, acting deputy assistant secretary of the LDFW, and a biologist who has spent much of his long career studying specks.
But there is also some real-world experience to back up those computers. In 2006, yielding to requests from some guides and sports fishers hoping for more large specks, the state reduced regulations on Calcasieu Lake. The daily limit was dropped to 15, and although the minimum size remained at 12 inches, anglers were restricted to only two fish of more than 25 inches. The result six years later? "From our assessment, it did not increase the number of big fish in the system," Shepard reported. "Of course, we didn't anticipate it would."
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"Based on those numbers, our assessment is we would have to reduce the daily limit to five before anyone would notice a difference in the fish available," he said.
The daily limit of 25 is seldom reached by most anglers. Studies show that the average catch per trip is fewer than five fish. Obviously, if all of the almost 1 million anglers fishing caught 25 each trip, the limit would have to be lowered.
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OK, so what about reducing the minimum size to increase the number of big fish? Shepard said the LDWF ran the numbers and got these results: Increasing the minimum from 12 inches to 15 inches would put 13 percent more fish back in the water; from 12 inches to 16 inches would reduce harvest by nine percent.
But because anglers would be hooking and releasing more fish, the improvement is dampened by an estimated 10 percent release mortality.
"Essentially, we would increase spawning potential by about four percent if we raised the minimum to 15 inches, and six percent if we raised it to 16 inches," he said. "Either way, the improvement would not be noticeable to fishermen."
Posted on 9/19/18 at 4:31 pm to The Last Coco
From the link.
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jimbeamquote:
Posted on 9/19/18 at 4:36 pm to The Last Coco
quote:I don't believe this.
They've done studies, even in Big Lake where they reduced the bag limits, and have found no increase in size of trout.
Posted on 9/19/18 at 4:38 pm to AlxTgr
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I don't believe this.
Tis true though.
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