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re: Would a 10 fish limit on specks be so bad?
Posted on 9/20/18 at 10:12 am to YOURADHERE
Posted on 9/20/18 at 10:12 am to YOURADHERE
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I believe I read a while back that larger trout can't thrive in lower salinity waters like smaller juvenile trout can, the Texas and Florida coast have much higher salinity levels which is why you see much larger trout from there. Not sure if that's because the lower salinity hinders growth rates/mortality or if larger trout seek out higher salinity and migrate.
I believe it also has something to do with Florida and Texas having 2 tides a day compared to LA who has 1 cycle a day the vast majority of time.
Edit I think Florida has 2 tides but Texas 1. I'm lost and guessing at this point.
This post was edited on 9/20/18 at 10:15 am
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Posted on 9/20/18 at 10:22 am to Fourteen28
I see the people with no degree in marine biology, those who cant catch and those who want to impose their morality on others are out in full force down voting the people who agree with the science backing a 25 fish limit 
downvotes everywhere
downvotes everywhere
Posted on 9/20/18 at 10:31 am to maisweh
Don't blindly accept the "science" because they just say so. Is the science really sound? Ms. has science too:
quote:
"We have seen an increase in recreational fishing over the past 10 years, and because of that, we're taking more speckled trout out of the population," said Jamie Miller, executive director of the Mississippi Department of Marine Resources. "Our scientists ran several different models to determine the best way to increase the spawning potential ratio, and they found that increasing the size limit from 13 inches to 15 inches would produce the best results. We believe that this will help us get to a sustainable stock of speckled trout in the next three to five years."
Posted on 9/20/18 at 10:36 am to AlxTgr
Are all contributing factors to spawning in Louisiana and Mississippi the same?
Does Louisiana not have a sustainable stock of speckled trout already?
quote:
We believe that this will help us get to a sustainable stock of speckled trout in the next three to five years."
Does Louisiana not have a sustainable stock of speckled trout already?
This post was edited on 9/20/18 at 10:38 am
Posted on 9/20/18 at 10:50 am to AlxTgr
quote:
Don't blindly accept the "science" because they just say so. Is the science really sound? Ms. has science
Mississippi has 10 miles of coastline.
Posted on 9/20/18 at 10:58 am to maisweh
quote:How does that change their scientific conclusions?
Mississippi has 10 miles of coastline.
Posted on 9/20/18 at 11:06 am to AlxTgr
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How does that change their scientific conclusions?
different stock of fish, different harvest rates, fishing pressure, habitat in some locations. slight further away from the mouth of the river (although freshwater does still influence salinity in certain locations). Could be different assumptions in the stock assessment in things like natural mortality, catch selectivity, those trout could have different age/size structure.
Whole host of things that could affect management decisions resulting from a stock assessment.
ETA: not related to the length of their coastline, but other things that might lead to different management recommendations based on a stock assessment.
This post was edited on 9/20/18 at 11:07 am
Posted on 9/20/18 at 11:08 am to AlxTgr
I'd imagine the amount of anglers per coastal mile would be higher than other states with vastly more coast, more people fishing less area. 
Posted on 9/20/18 at 11:09 am to AlxTgr
Hatchery, they have none and Louisiana has millions of acres. Can't compare Ms or Tx to Louisiana in any shape or form regarding trout.
Posted on 9/20/18 at 11:11 am to KemoSabe65
It's the concept though. You people claim it doesn't work, period.
Posted on 9/20/18 at 11:17 am to AlxTgr
Where was that stated?
This thread is happening within the context of Louisiana regulations.
This thread is happening within the context of Louisiana regulations.
This post was edited on 9/20/18 at 11:19 am
Posted on 9/20/18 at 12:04 pm to AlxTgr
quote:
It's the concept though. You people claim it doesn't work, period
you argue just for the sake of argument.
Posted on 9/20/18 at 12:16 pm to Fourteen28
I’ve alwaysthought 15 per person would be a good compromise for all involved . They eat so much better fresh I rarely freeze them.
Posted on 9/20/18 at 12:45 pm to rilesrick
What compromise is needed?
Posted on 9/20/18 at 12:47 pm to maisweh
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you argue just for the sake of argument.
Right. Isn't that why Al Gore invented the internets?
Posted on 9/20/18 at 12:56 pm to jimbeam
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What compromise is needed?
EXACTLY. Why are we compromising? What is there to be compromised?
Again, I don't understand why some of the same people stumping for listening to data on red snapper populations to increase bag limits are simultaneously trying to lower speckled trout limits contrary to the available data.
Posted on 9/20/18 at 1:01 pm to The Last Coco
Yep. There’s no compromise to be had when the biologists have data showing the current regs aren’t hurting the population.
Posted on 9/20/18 at 1:18 pm to maisweh
quote:This is such lame bullshite. I posted science which is what was asked for. You're better than this.
It's the concept though. You people claim it doesn't work, period
you argue just for the sake of argument.
Posted on 9/20/18 at 1:19 pm to PapaPogey
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With the price of boats, gas, bait, and gear, 25 is perfectly fine with me
I don’t understand this logic. One has nothing to do with the other.
My home and vehicles are expensive but that doesn’t mean nature owes me anything in those areas simply because they cost alot of money.
All due respect.
This post was edited on 9/20/18 at 2:49 pm
Posted on 9/20/18 at 1:47 pm to LessofLes
I think he is using the cost of living as a way to justify his belief in more liberal limits but i could be mistaken. If anyone believes they can be a hunter/gatherer and do it cheaper than at the local Rousses they are dumb. Only outlaws can make a living off the land and eventually they get caught. That kind of thinking is why we can't have nice shiat in Louisiana. 
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