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re: Would a 10 fish limit on specks be so bad?
Posted on 9/20/18 at 2:42 pm to Fourteen28
Posted on 9/20/18 at 2:42 pm to Fourteen28
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Serious question: do trout stop growing if the salinity levels are lower? Simple logic would tell you, less fish boated, more fish in the water to grow and/or breed?
Most Saltwater fish species don't fare well in lower salinities. There have been telemetry studies on trout in Big Lake that show them moving further south after heavy rains in the northern part of the estuary, basically moving towards higher salinity water.
As for the second question, I could also say that simple logic would tell you that leaving more fish would create more competition for resources, therefore reducing body size. At some point, you are going to be in a situation where leaving more fish is a detriment to the fishery.
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Posted on 9/20/18 at 2:42 pm to KemoSabe65
I think a limit of at least 50 is more realistic. Specks here are plenty big if you know where to fish. We used to catch specks until our ice chests were full then leave them biting (prior to limits). We could catch enough specks in one or two trips to feed us for a year.
This is my opinion, but I don't see the difference in keeping 100 specks in 4 trips, or 100 specks in one trip. Once the freezer is full, time to go hunting.
In Florida we used to catch redfish on cane poles, fill up our chests, and leave. The gill netters were the biggest problem for fish populations.
Posted on 9/20/18 at 3:03 pm to Fourteen28
Not a problem here. Struggle just to boat 10.
Posted on 9/20/18 at 3:48 pm to redfishfan
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I believe it also has something to do with Florida and Texas having 2 tides a day compared to LA who has 1 cycle a day the vast majority of time.
Edit I think Florida has 2 tides but Texas 1. I'm lost and guessing at this point.
Its hard to keep up with Daylight Savings Tides isn't it.
I'm in full favor of a limit of 10 trout.
Posted on 9/20/18 at 3:53 pm to Fourteen28
frick that. I have two freezers. The more the better
Posted on 9/21/18 at 6:18 am to KemoSabe65
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. If anyone believes they can be a hunter/gatherer and do it cheaper than at the local Rousses they are dumb
60/70 count shrimp at rouses - $5.99/lb
16/20 off the boat - $3.99/lb
doing it myself with a net I already gave and burning 8-10 gallons of fuel - priceless
Posted on 9/21/18 at 7:38 am to Fourteen28
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Seems like plenty enough food and it could help our waters produce those Texas sized specks.
Specks won't get bigger if you lower the limits. I dont follow your thoughts on that part.
Dont they eat shrimp? Why do you hate shrimpers so much? We are trying to support that industry, lol.
Limits are set off of populations. There are plenty.
Now let's talk snapper
Posted on 9/21/18 at 11:10 am to GeeOH
Always laugh at my guide buddies in SE LA that are crying one day about the limits being to liberal then two days later posting pics of clients with 100 pencil trout laying on the dock. I'm not going to argue about y'alls limits over there as it won't do any good, but I'm glad TPWD manages our trout fishery as it does, it's nice CPRing 7, 8, 9lb+ trout over here.
Posted on 9/21/18 at 11:20 am to keyboard_warrior9
It wouldn't be bad in my opinion, but I live in Texas now and wouldn't eat anything out of these pcb, dioxin and Mercury filled waters, so I catch and release everything
Posted on 9/21/18 at 11:24 am to TxWadingFool
meh, our fishery is still way better than y’alls
Posted on 9/21/18 at 11:39 am to TxWadingFool
Honestly the guides over fish trout in Louisiana and it’s starting to show.
Posted on 9/21/18 at 11:41 am to FightinTiga
Starting to show how? Examples please
Posted on 9/21/18 at 11:46 am to PapaPogey
Meh, different strokes, we can go always go to a river over here and fish for white bass if we want to catch a bunch of 14" fish.
Posted on 9/21/18 at 12:35 pm to PapaPogey
Been fishing for 30 years and since Katrina the amount of guides has exploded and the amount of fish has declined,simple math really
Posted on 9/21/18 at 12:41 pm to FightinTiga
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Been fishing for 30 years and since Katrina the amount of guides has exploded and the amount of fish has declined,simple math really
still no examples.
I grew up in leeville and fourchon, I can catch trout now easier than we did 20 years ago. your experience may vary.
Posted on 9/21/18 at 12:47 pm to maisweh
We have a population increase and a marsh/land decrease. Some places will benefit from this during different times of the year. At some point they will lower the limits, but I have no idea if they need to now. I just keep what I plan on eating that week.
Posted on 9/21/18 at 1:58 pm to Nawlens Gator
quote:. I every body wants to catch big trout throw back big trout. Keeping a bunch of 12-15 inchers is not why there aren’t as many monsters, keeping a bunch of 20+ ones is. The little ones eat better anyway same as bass
The gill netters were the biggest problem for fish populations
Posted on 9/21/18 at 2:39 pm to maisweh
Are you a guide? The examples are the size and amount of fish caught
Posted on 9/21/18 at 2:44 pm to maisweh
Recreational fishing has been tainted by greed
Posted on 9/21/18 at 8:25 pm to Fourteen28
So few people catch the limit, changing it would be irrelevant.
“According to LDWF research data, 66 percent of anglers catch five or fewer speckled trout per trip, 3 percent catch 10 per trip, 2 percent catch 15 per trip and 4 percent catch 25 per trip.”
I think the only real effect dropping limits would have is on charter captains. There are a lot of people who only fish once a year, or not even that often, who count on being able to fill the freezer with a limit when they pay close to a grand for a charter trip. Charters would lose a lot of business if the limits drop significantly.
“According to LDWF research data, 66 percent of anglers catch five or fewer speckled trout per trip, 3 percent catch 10 per trip, 2 percent catch 15 per trip and 4 percent catch 25 per trip.”
I think the only real effect dropping limits would have is on charter captains. There are a lot of people who only fish once a year, or not even that often, who count on being able to fill the freezer with a limit when they pay close to a grand for a charter trip. Charters would lose a lot of business if the limits drop significantly.
This post was edited on 9/21/18 at 8:26 pm
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